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Were they Irishmen-It is impossible to distinguish a man's country by his face, I faw nothing particularly extraordinary; I very honestly confess myself, that I thought the man was killed in the indiscriminate hurly burly ; I saw no staff by him.
How many men did you see, chairmen ?--About twenty-five or thirty, not more.
Do me the favour to look at the prisoners, and tell me if you remember them? I took notice of Ward, the butcher, with one eye, and I recollect him particularly that day being on the other side of the pump, coming up long after Casson was killed : they caine down in‘a very large body, they intirely filled up the Hustings and booth; they appeared to me to be a hundred and thirty.
Do you really limit the number of chairmen to twenty-five ?-No, I think there might be thirty
How many of them might be about Casfon when he was under the pump ?-I do not recollect feeing above two or three people about him, and they had sticks beating the hands of the people.
Were they chairmen I cannot charge my memory with seeing any chairmen about him.
Does not the pump stand at some distance from the Hustings ?-Yes; they went off, but they returned again, but they did not advance at the time; when Casson was killed the confiables retreated; there were a few ftragglers about the body, who got about him, and gave'him water.
Court. They could not all be gone ?-The people on both sides could not get away? it was the people in front that ran away, those that were on the left side were beat most unmercifully.
A ARON A B B O T Sworn.
Examined by Mr. Pigot. I am beadle and constable of St. Paul's, Covent Garden; I have been four years. beadle, and two years conftable; I was in Covent Garden on the roth of May, I was on the leads at the Unicorn, I could see the pump and a long way beyond it, and a part of the front of the Hustings; I was there when the poll closed at three o'clock, and I. was there before that time.
Was there any rioting in the front of the Hustings ?-I cannot say there was much, only a parcel of constables came pushing people about.
Was there any disturbance then ? - Only that they would not let people stand quietly.
After the close of the poll was there any disturbance:– There was some scuffle in the front, a man held something, it might be a halfpenny, and called out Fox for ever, and one man whom they call Lucas, that generally wears spectacles, he jumped over the rails to strike him, and the affray began on that; that is my opinion of it: from that there came a great body of them together, parading backwards and forwards to the: amount of two hundred, down by the Huftings with their sticks, knocking people about.
Did they follow Lucas ?-I believe they followed him.
Were those people relifting thin Not that I faw, they caine down as low as the pump and came back a second time, some of them struck at the whole of thein.
They struck indiscriminately ?-Yes, Sir.
Was there any cry about any body's being knocked down ?-Then there was a cry as I really believe, of a High Cónítable that had knocked a man down.
Did you see the man knocked down?-I did not see himn struck, I saw him when he was down.
Did you at that time observe any of the chairmen or butchers there?-There were none nigh to my knowledge.
Did the constables go away after that ?-After that they began striking violently.
Did the marrow-bones and cleavers come across after that ? -At that time they stood by a row of coaches all quiet, with their cleavers over their arms, but they went towards the pump and returned again, and went and stood very quiet by Mr. Jennings's door, then they were taken one by one, to the Committee Room.
Cross-examined by Mr. Sylvester. If I understand you right, you were upon the leads of the Unicorn ? - Yes, it projects a good way out.
The Huftings were inclosed in the boards ?-Yes.
Lucas was within the Huftings ?—No, Sir, there is a way intirely through in the front of the Huftings, and there is a rail, and he was there; there was a scuffle.
Between whom By the conftables in general, as I saw, I do not know but they might fcuffle with one another, they hardly knew one another, and the conftables went to knock down every man that called out Fox for ever, they did not knock down any other person whatever, I did not see who struck the deceased, there was one Mr. Elliott, he was very busy and struck away very violently, and there was Mr. Wild equally the fame, very busy.
Did he strike any body?-I saw him strike people, Lucas, who wears spectacles, he was very busy all the whole time, and indeed the whole of the Election.
Was there no chairmen nor butchers about Mr. Fox's side ?_There were not, but there were plenty of spectators, they might have sticks, I did not take particular notice.
Then how can you take upon yourself to swear, you do not mean to say, that round this pump there were none but conftables ?-There were the most constables, but I cannot say that there were none but constables.
Did you know the prisoner ?-I cannot say.
CHRISTOPHER JACOB sworn.
Examined by Mr. Fielding.
In what situation was you when the poll closed - In the front of the Huftings about the middle part.
And at that time all was quiet ?-There was a scuffle ensued between a black man and a white man, and there were some constables before the rails, and they jumped over the rails, they pressed forward, and they were immediately joined by another body of constables, the name of one is, as they said, Lucas.
From what side of the Huftings did this body of constables come ?-From Wood's Hotel, every one of thein.
How many constables might there be collected there :-There might be forty, I cannot say exactly, they came bearing down their staves, and this man in black, with a pair of spectacles and a light coloured two curled wig, I am told his name is Lucas, he itruck at several people, they bore me down as well as several other
people, and they pressed onwards towards Henrietta-street, the people gave way towards the pump:
What happened by the pump at that time ?-When they came down nearer the pump there was a man dressed with white stockings and black breeches; his waistcoat I cannot be sure to, but his coat was of the olive kind; I believe his waistcoat was green; I saw this man fight with Lucas in spectacles, with a constable's staff in his hand, and they said the man in black struck a blow, which blow that man received.
Court. Where did that blow light ?-Whether he struck at him with a design I cannot say, but a blow that man received somewhere on the side of his head, it made him stagger very much ; the man that made the blow at me, lifted up his staff at the same time, and that took my attention from the man, I did not see him drop, but I saw him reel, I was pressed considerably, and soon after I came upon the flag stones facing the watch-house, then I looked and saw the same man under the pump, they were rubbing water down his temples, I was not two yards from him, I am sure it was the same man, I saw no others than conftables that were about him at that time when I saw the blow given ; when I came on the flag stones, Mr. Sheridan asked me who the man was that lay under the pump, I said I did not know who he was, but I heard he was a constable, I saw no other but constables.
Did you see any chairmen or any persons resembling chairmen at the pump at that time?-No, Sir, I do not know that that was the man, I never faw him after, the man. that was under the pump I saw the blow given to.
Did you see the pritoners there ?--No, I did not.
Are you a Jew or a Chriitian ?-I am a Christian, Sir, my name is Jacob, I was there most days, I was there that day from one, I was not paid.
You did not see this unhappy man trampled on, did you -No, I did not.
seen Casson any time before to fix your attention upon him, so as to observe whether he was an officer or not?—I do not know that he was an officer, only as the people said, I did not see him with a staff in his hand, I did not describe hinn fó.
WILLIAM JENNER sworn.
Examined by Mr. Garrow. I am a Breeches-maker, I live in St. Martin's-lane.
Was you in Covent Garden the 10th of May I was near the church, but I was drove down by the mob to the pump, that might be between three or four, I went there about half past twelve, and was there till fix.
Who drove you down to the puinp ?-I was drove entirely by the constables.
What was it? I saw the constables all bear down in a full body from Wood's Hotel, which is King-street end of the Hastings down to the pump; when they came to the pump, I was standing facing the spot, and there came a head' constable with the whole kit of the constables, each had a black staff with silver. tipped at each end, and a crown at top; it was about iwo feet long, I was standing there, and if I had not moved. I should have been knocked down by it, he held it up in his hand, and he was knocking down all before him, I was obliged to move out of his way, or else I should have got a blow, he was follow. d by a large number of other persons, the multitude ran away. Did you
see any body struck?-Yes, there was a man on the right hand side of me sear the pump; he was a tallish man between forty and fifty, dressed in a darkish co
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loured coat and a green feathered waistcoat; he was struck with this High Constable's Itaff on the left side on the temple.
Did the blow appear to be severe ?-No, it did not, but he fell with the blow; after he was knocked down, he was trampled over by the other constables; he was taken to the corner of Mr. Fox's house, the Unicorn, and taken up one pair of stairs, and there continued an hour.
Where was he carried to afterwards ?-I do not know, I never saw him afterwards; I was up there half an hour in the room.
Cross-examined by Mr. Sylvester. You know the High Constable of Westminster ?-Yes.
It was not he that knocked the man down?-I do not know that I should know him again.
Look at each of these High Constables, was it either of them ?--No, I do not say it was, but I am sure it was a High Constable; the man I saw had no staff; there was a ferious scuffle between the two parties, Mr. Wray's party drove off Mr. Fox's.
They were all pretty peaceable when this blow was given ?-He had no staff in his hand, the man that was knocked down, not as I saw; I cannot rightly swear to the constable's hat, but I could to his wig; I am sure he was an High Constable.
Mr. Erskine. The other witnesses, that have sworn against the prisoners, have fworn to the direct contrary.
WILLIAM FOSSET sworn.
Examined by Nir. Erskine. I was near the Huftings on the 10th of May—I remember the constables coming round from King-street way out of the Hustings, and driving the populace before them; there were a vast number of them indeed, -but one I particularly observed was one Lucas, as I was in the populace; I was obliged to make way, and observed Lucas Itriking a man who happened to cry out Fox for ever.
Did he strike him in a violent manner?..He struck him in a violent manner.
What were the populace in general doing when the conftables were driving them with their sticks - Nothing but crying out Fox for ever, they were doing no inifchief, nor offering to do any; I particularly faw this Lucas almost knock a man down.
After this did you happen to be near the pump? --I will tell you,-first and foremost in coming along, I called out Gentlemen constables, the Election is over, and the books are closed, why do not you disperse, and the mob will disperse afterwards ; and just as I spoke those words, a contable, with a short staff, made a blow at nie; he tried to make a second at me, but I flew into the mob to get out of
What had you been doing to deserve this blow ?-No other than what I have said, I was then coming nearer the pump, and I saw a man fall.
At this time was the populace resisting the constables ? - There was no resistance at that time; the contables came up to the pump, and were knocking and clearing with their sticks, I cannot tell how the man fell; I heard a great cry immediately that the conftables had knocked down a man and killed himn;-these were the constables that came from King-ftreet.
Cross-examined by Mr. Morgan. . Had you paid any particular attention to this man that was knocked down at the pump, before he was knocked down?
-No, Sir, I did not; there was a great affray ensued some time after-I was among the populace, and saw a number of conftables with sticks; I never saw any with bludgeons that I could particularize.
You never saw them draw them out of their coats all at once?-I never did; I saw none to my recollection but the conftables about the inan when he was knocked down, I did not go to the place. Did you go after-No.
CHARLES GIBSON fworn
Examined by Mr. Pigott. I am a Breecher-maker--I was at Covent Garden the roth of May, about ten minutes before three, upon the leads belonging to the Unicorn; and about a quarter after three, Mr. Fox came out from the Hustings and went to one Mr. Jennings's, and in about five or six minutes, a parcel of constables came down with long staves in ranks like soldiers.
Did they strike any of the people ?-First of all, there was some before them crying out Fox, and they collared fome nunbers of them, and other rescued them, but there were no weapons used on Mr. Fox's fide.
When the constables came on, did the people make any resistance ?-Not the least for twenty minutes; there was a man knocked down by the pump, within about a
Was he taken into the Unicorn afterwards ?-He was under the pump ten min nutes before he was taken into the Unicorn, and bathed with water.
Who was about there :-There were constables round about him, but there was no. body with bludgeons about him..
Was there any person there making any resistance ?-Not the least in the world, he was led through the ranks of chairmen which had sticks in their hands, and was taken to the Unicorn,—he remained there very near half an hour.
Then it was three quarters of an hour, before he was carried to Wood's? Yes, the guards were there some time before he was taken to Wood's.
Cross-examined by Mr. Sylvester. You are a journeyman Breeches-maker-A master---I was next to Covent Garden in the front of the leads; they came eleven or twelve in a rank, and the High ConItable before them; Casfon was in the first rank; I saw a man give him a blow; they had all staves; but as for him, I did not see his staff; I did not see him till the man knocked him down; there was no scuffle for twenty minutes after ; only just then people cried out Fox, and they took them into custody, and the people went to rescue them again ; but they had no arms—so there was a scuffle; there were staves on one fide, and no sticks on the other; I saw the deceased receive a blow somewhere about his temple; I think I should know the man that gave the blow; I do not see him there; I do not know his name; I saw the staff go twice; and I saw him give the first blow; and there was another blow given at him—but whether it was by him or no, I cannot tell.
Mr. Fielding. It will not be necessary to trouble your Lordships with any more evidence, we have an infinite number of witnesses as to the second riot, and how it began.
RICHARD BRINSLEY SHERIDAN, Esq. sworn. Mr. Fielding. I need not trouble you, Sir, with any question :- I will state as Mort as possible all I know of the matter; about a quarter before three, Colonel Fitz.