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the way in which the Reply tions, and renewed visits from was written, some persons in Eng- their friends. Let one of the most land might suppose that all Scot- eloquent members of the Deputatish Institutions had been hitherto tion to London in 1819 speak for coldly treated by the friends of his country: religion in the south. This is not “ We acknowledge that our the feeling in Scotland. The hearts, in our northern clime, complaint is confined to one So- have been often warmed, and aniciety.
mated, and refreshed, by the visits Lastly. It seems to be taken for of our friends from the south, granted by the writer, that the when they have done us the hoEnglish Societies can only pay pour to appeal to our sympathy, their debt to Scotland in pounds, and solicit the co-operation of our shillings, and pence; that no moral hearts and hands, in a common remuneration has ever been given; cause. We would express our and that the whole matter, not- thankfulness to those members withstanding the disclaimer of of the London Missionary Soyour correspondent, must be view- ciety, of the British and Foreign ed as a mere secular, commercial Bible Society, of the Baptist affair.
Missionary Society, and others, Now, I am bold to say that, who this day honour us with their though England has, in the esti- presence, for the impulse which mation of the writer, contributed these inspiring communications so little of her worldly substance have often given us at home. We to Scottish Institutions, yet the do not complain that you have intercourse that she has had with impoverished or exhausted us ; the north, through her religious rather you have increased our Institutions, has been productive resources, by giving new vigour of the best effects to Scotland. I to that perennial spring of Chrismight go back to the earlier days tian affection and generosity, of the London and Baptist Mis- which is the treasury from which sionary Societies; to those sea. our Sovereign Leader would have sons when, among others, FULLER all his supplies drawn."* visited Scotland, to impart some I do not, however, say that this of his ardour and devotedness in is all the south should impart. the cause of Missions to the sons No; let England give help to the of the north; when his visits, and religious Institutions of the north those of other friends from the according to their claims. Far be south, were hailed as occasions of it from me to check the spirit of the truest joy; when all that was liberality which should exist in liberally contributed, was consi- this country; but neither let an dered as a small return for that array of figures, a cold financial moral excitement, that drawing statement of accounts, dry up the forth of the best affections of the streams of liberality in Scotland. heart, produced by their labours Let Christians there exercise their and their communications.
discrimination, respecting the SoThese were days, however, the cieties they should assist, and close of which I only saw; but I the proportion they should impart may confidently appeal to those to each; but let no friend of the in Scotland who, for a series of Scottish Missionary Society supyears, have supported the two In- pose for a moment, that a withstitutions just named, if they ever grudged the assistance they rendered, or sought any other return, Speech of the Rev. H. Grey, in Lonthan the success of the Institu- 'don, March 16, 1819.
holding fróin English religious In- Scottish Deputation again visits the stitutions will materially benefit south, no complaint of its recepits funds. It may, for a time, in- tion will be considered necessary crease them; but a very small by its members, when they return proportion of what is withheld to the land of their fathers. will continue to flow into its cof
A COUNTRY MINISTER. fers, or, indeed, into the treasury of other Scottish Institutions.
EXPLANATORY REMARKS ON THE I wish the intercourse between
VISIT OF THE SCOTTISH DEPU. the two countries to be kept up
TATION. nay, to increase. The union that should cement the Christians of
(To the Editors.) both kingdoms is stronger than GentLEMEN.-Having obserythe bonds of human law, and we ed in the last two numbers of should act on higher principles your valuable and interesting pubthan those of barter. Love to lication, a pretty extended referChrist should unite our zeal, and ence to the dissatisfaction of our property, and prayers, in seeking good friends in the North, with to promote his cause. This will the reception which the last Depube better than for one nation to tation from the Scottish Mission
of the servant in the parable, and induced to offer to the considersay, “ Pay ine what thou owest !” ation of your readers a very brief
I know that many of the friends statement of facts, which I am of the Scottish Missionary So- ready to think will remove from ciety are the friends of the Lon- their minds any unfavourable imdon Missionary Society ; that pression which they may unhappily some of the best men in the have received. Prior to the visit Church of Scotland, that the re- which the Deputation from Scotspectable ministers of the Seces- land paid to our metropolis, the sion, have long been its warm sup- Secretary to the Society forwarded porters; and that the Indepen- to a large number of ministers in dents, according to their ability, and near London, a circular letter, have done well. That this will announcing the proposed visit, continue to be the case, I have and requesting information whether no doubt, as long as that Insti- it would be suitable, at the time tution keeps its great principles mentioned, to allow the worthy and object in view, and that there ministers to plead in our respective will appear no sufficient reason pulpits, the cause of the Scottish for withdrawing from any one of Missionary Society. To this cirthe English religious Institutions cular the Secretary received more more than is meet; for we are as- than twenty “negative replies, sured, by the highest authority, stating a variety of reasons of a that " it tendeth to poverty.” local and temporary nature, which
I take my leave of your corre- rendered the time proposed parspondent, expressing a hope that ticularly inconvenient. Some neither of our communications places of worship had undergone may injure, in any degree, that large and expensive repairs and cause which, I trust, notwith- alterations. In others, collections standing some difference of opi- had been made within a few weeks nion,) we both love; that they for other important institutions. will not stop, or turn aside into a Most of the churches of our own wrong chapnel, one stream of sup- denomination had received, but ply to the Institutions of Christian a very little before, the application benevolence; and that, when a of the Rev. G. Ewing, of Glas
gow, in favour of the Congrega- rendered the application incontional Union of Scotland. Such venient. as these were the motives which I will not prolong this letter induced, which, indeed, obliged further than to say, that if at any very many ministers to object to future time which shall be found the time of the projected visit. mutually eligible, a Deputation And great was our surprise, from the Scottish Missionary when, notwithstanding these mul- Society shall visit London, I shall tiplied negatives, the Deputation, be most happy, as I doubt not but either preceded by, or accompanied my brethren will be also, to offer with, the worthy Secretary, made them our pulpits, and to do all their appearance; and the surprise, in our power to facilitate that great allow me to say, was as much felt object, in relation to which we by the Scottish Ministers in Lon- are all one; the extension of the don, whether of the Established kingdom of our adorable ReChurch, or of the Secession, as by deemer. the Congregationalists. That, in
I am, Gentlemen, these circumstances, their applica- Your Friend and Brother, tions were as successful as they A LONDON CONGREGATIONAL appear to have been, is really MINISTER, and one of the late more wonderful than that they Deputation to Scotland, from were not more so. There was the London Missionary Society. no feeling of coolness to the great object which they were desirous of pleading. On the contrary,
WHISPERS. in wishing the visit to be post
" Hi narrata ferunt alio.” poned, we anticipated some more
OviD. favourable season, when we might
They tell what they have heard. be able to receive them into our IT has been, time immemorial, the pulpits, and send them away load- lot of writers to know very little ed with success.
of the world ; and as I suspect, By the simple statement of these Mr. Editor, that you, along with facts, with which I happened to most of the scribbling tribe, have be better acquainted than my little leisure to hear the conversacompanions, I was instrumental, tion of our religious parties, either in the course of a long journey in in town or country, I have preScotland, during the last summer, sumed to think, that at least it when I was deputed to plead may amuse you to hear a few of the cause of the London Mission- the whisperings and remarks to ary Society, in removing from the which your monthly budget gives minds of ministers of various de- rise. It was suggested to me the nominations in Edinburgh, Dun- other day, that as I visited, in the dee, Arbroath, Montrose, Aber- course of my business, various deen, Inverness, Glasgow, and places and companies, I might many other places, the very mis- inform you of the opinions, of at taken impressions which had been least a respectable number of your widely circulated. And although readers, and render you some serthere were places and congrega- vice, by putting you on your guard tions to which we had no access, against the designs which are formfrom similar causes to those before ing, in several quarters, against mentioned, we never presumed you. Without further introduc. to insinuate or to suppose that tion, therefore, I shall proceed to the negative arose from any cause advertise to you, that you are genebut that which was assigned, some rally esteemed, among the liberals local or temporary reason, which of the day, too stiff a dissenter ;
and that a design has been for impeached of what was represome time on foot among the sented as litile better than disEvangelical Episcopalians, for honesty. Then he inquired if I supplying regular replies to all knew who the Editor of your your argumentative pieces upon work was, or if I could tell him dissent. Indeed I was told, a who wrote the review of “Robshort time since, by an Episcopa- berds” and “the Manchester Conlian, that you had done more to troversy ;" to both of which quespropagate and strengthen the prin- tions I was able to give a negaciples of dissent, than any pub- tive answer, so that you need not lication since the time of the bitter yet fear either a duel or a horseold Towgood. I told my worthy whipping. However, I may just friend, that at least the church whisper to you, that after he had party had shown quite as much spent his anger, he concluded by zeal of late in attacking dissenters, saying, “ Well, I can tell you that and, to my thinking, less sobriety our friends have got a rod in and candour. I reminded him of pickle for your party, that will the Quarterly on Dissent, and of make them repent of interfering a long series of replies in defence with our endowments.” I took of the Church against your Maga- leave of my companion without zine, published lately in an Episs being convinced that you had in copalian periodical, but I found he this particular done wrong. I was rather sore upon that subject, wish, Mr. Editor, I could always and so I dropped it. He seemed defend you as satisfactorily as in anxious, however, to assure me this instance. For though I do that those « letters” were not consi- not see any great prospect of sucdered able and satisfactory an- cess against these gentlemen, yet, swers, and that it was intended you may possibly make some of soon to take up the subject again, them feel the force of the old and that the new " series of letters adage, Conscientia grave pondus est. against Dissent was to be written My next rencontre was of a dif. by the reviewer of “Palmer's ferent description. Having taken Catechism,” in the “
Re- a short ride one leisure day to a view," (known in the trade by the friend's villa in the country, I met, name of “ My Grandmother's Re- in the evening, an intelligent party, view.") I thanked my good friend who, among other topics of disfor his candour, and took my leave. cussion, connected with the relia You will be astonished, perhaps, gious world, brought upon the to find that you are talked of in tapis your late paper on Ministers? coffee-houses; but having to meet Sons. The opinions of all the a friend a short time since, who is party were freely expressed, and, inclined to the Unitarian Theo- with the exception of one rather logy, I was somewhat surprised precise old maiden lady, were to find he was very much out of decidedly opposed to your corretewper with all the orthodox; so spondent. One gentleman remuch so, that I could hardly get marked, that he thought the fact him to settle the business for which assumed was false and invidious; we met, through asking me a that there were certainly not more variety of questions about the sons of ministers profligate, than violent attacks which had been sons of other men; but that from made lately in your magazine the prominency of the fathers' upon the Socinians. Indeed, he characters, and the contrast of the said, it was shameful to see so sops', when such cases occurred, respectable a body of men, we took more notice of them ; dragged before the public, and upon the same principle as specks
and blemishes are more noticeable another fact, as a set off. Last when they stand nearer to the summer I visited an eminent dislines of beauty. A lady present, senting minister, in the west of who was renowned for her good England, who told me he was taste, and who had been the enraged at your reviewer, for daughter, and was now the sister treating with such faint praise the of an eminent minister, said, she admirable work of Mr. Douglas thought Imus had much overdrawn on Society. I think it right, morethe whole domestic scene, and over, that you should know, that that he had descended to a sort of in your review of this work, you description that was too low and have greatly differed from several trifing. This led a third indivi- other periodicals.But now, Mr. dual to say, that since he had read Editor, let me tell you how you that paper, he had taken a survey stand with the ladies. A friend of of all the ministers he knew, and mine, near London, informed me of their families; and that he lately, that your poetry had gained thought, instead of the fact being you many friends among this class as your correspondent had repre- of readers; and that, as an indivisented, there was quite an equal dual, he must say, you had inproportion of pious sons in the serted many very choice little families of ministers, as among morsels. Being no great admirer pious persons of other ranks of the muses, I replied, I hoped that he could number up many you would be informed of the inministers' families, distinguished terest the ladies took in this de for the piety and talents of the partment of your work, that you sons—that he believed a very might exercise proper diligence in large . proportion of the young providing them with a due supply; ministers were sons of ministers and not be again put to your shifts, and that, upon the whole, the chil- as you evidently were in March dren of ministers, and pre-emi- last, for that I could not help nently that the daughters of minis- thinking, that at least one of your ters, were distinguished by quite as poems in that number, would have large a proportion of piety as the been much better “ Past” over; children of other Christian families, but that since it was “ past," I
A few days after this visit, hoped it would never be succeeded I heard a gentleman of great re- by any more of the same sort, and spectability, who is said to be be treated like most past thingsan extensive reader, speak in high soon forgotten. I can assure you, praise of the reviewing depart- Mr. Editor, that since your farment of your magazine. At the famed Baptismal Controversy, same time he said, there was so you have had few articles that much secresy in your movements, have created a stronger sensation that he never could ferret out the than that entitled “ Embryo Literanames of your most distinguished ture,” signed Simon Hornbookius. reviewers. An article which ap. Both praise and blame, as you peared above seven years ago, and might expect, have been in excess. which had attracted universal at. Some of us laughed heartily, and tention, remained, he said, yet un- thought we could trace out some appropriated, and to this day, was palpable hits. One gentleman I ascribed to at least four different met with near Birmingham, thought persons. Upon the whole, he it needed a key ; and another I was highly satisfied with your saw in London, supposed himself labours in this way. But to pre- satirized, and assured me he invent your being too much elated tended to resent the insult, and with this, I will now tell you of that he would never again look