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as I have supposed, we should have a still I cannot but entertain the ovinion that all the greater degree of excitement, accompanied circumstances will be made out and completed with so much public anxiety as would be most that are required to authorise the Crown to injurious when added to that we have already make an addition to the peerage. The ques: suffered from : we should have an intence aui- tion ought and niust be speedily settled. It musity against the House of Peers, and au is in these large manufacturing towns that we alienation of that respect and regard which leel more than in other parts of the country ought to attach to thai branch of the legisla-Ithe bad effects of the public anxiety on this Jure. (Hear, hear.) Even if this course were great measure, by the loss or diminution of taken, it would soon become more than ever our usual trade. It is the more necessary for manifest tbat the bill, in all its efficieucy, us to urge that all those constitutional steps must again be offered to Parliament, and should be taken by the King and by bis admimust eventually be passed by the Peers. But nistration which are necessary to bring this it would come with a worse grace, and with a measure to a speedy and satisfactory terminagreater loss of respect and iufluence by that tiou. (Applarise.) body. It remains with the Crown 10 preveut GEORGE WAILES, Esq., said, before he made both the House of Peers and the country from any observations to the ineeting, he would read being placed in such a dangerous position, by the resolution which he was alwut to submit a creation of new peers. We must all fear to the consideration of the meeting, and which that creation of peers ; for the purpose of car- was expressed in the following terms:rying a particular ineasure, is au exercise of “Resolved-1. That though this meeting the royal preroga:ive that should not be rashly views with satisfaction the recognition by the used. It requires peculiar circumstances to House of Lords of the great principles on warrant it, which should he clearly and dis- which the bill of reform is groupded, it cannot tinctly made out. (Hear, hear.) i do main- avoid feeling the deepest auxiety at the smail tain that those circumstances are, in the pre- majority by which it has passed the second sent instance, fully made out to the satisfac- reading, combined with the declared intention tion of the most doubting. (Applause.) The lof attempting inost important alteratious in its measure in question has been three times be- provisions. That it is therefore expedient to fore the House of Commoos ; the two last present an aildress to the King, praying bis times before a House calleil expressly after an Majesty, by the coustitutional exercise of the appeal to the people for their opinion ou it. royal prerogative in the creation of peers, The measure has been long before the public, w secure the passing of the Reform Bill in all and still the same general and favourable its efficiency, and thereby to preveut a collision opinion is entertained of it. It is a measure of between the two houses of Parliament." the most vital importance to the nation, and The learved gentleman then proceeded to has received the most careful consideratiou comment at considerable length on the arguand examination. Its mutilation by the meutative refusal of the mayor to call the Peers, so as to cause its rejection by the Com meeting, and to show that the reasons be had mons, would produce a state of things ex assigued why the King should not create additremely daugerous to the couniry. The tional peers were futile and iucouclusive; and Crown acquiesces in the propriety of the mea. he endeavoured to show, from the premises adsure. Any material alteratiou of the hill ivmitted by the inayor, that it would be an exerthe House of Peers woulı, in my opinion, cise of the royal prerogative, not only highly after all these circunstances not only warrant, expedient but absolutely necessary, to preserve but would loudly and most forcibly call upon the real independence of Parliament, and to the Crown to exercise that prerogative with give to each branch of the legislature a right wbich it has so wisely becu invested. (Ap. to deal with every question according to its plause.) There are some, however, and own judgment. among the rest our worthy Mayor, who enter-1 [che learued gentleman was here intertala different opinions ; and it is therefore the rupted by loud and repeated cries of “ Ad more necessary that the question should be journ ; there are yreat numbers of persons who discussed pow, when the emergency, if not caunot get in."] Alter some delay the meetactually arrived, is so uear at hand. (Hear, ing adjourued into the spacious area of the hear.) It should not be forgotten either, that cluth-ball. When the bustle produced by this one alteration which is most certaiu to be pro- ! movement had subsided, posed in the coinmittee of the Peers, is Mr. Walles resunied his observations, and, that of raising the 101. franchise still higher in illustration of his argument, be put the folm such large towns as this. One of the most lowing cave :-Suppose the House of ComMeterinined opponents of the bill slated in the mous, in whom originate all bills of supply, House of Lords, bis opiniou that the 101. fran- should pass a bill tv impose a tax, and that Cause would, in the large towns, approach when it came to the House of Lords they Very nearly to universal suffrage. Now we strould insert a clause exeinpting their own know very well how far this is from being the burly from its operation. Well, the bill so case, and we know how ungracious and even altered is returned to the Commons; who rebow dangerous it would be to take a higher fuse to conseut to the alteration. Let us also standard in such towus as these. If such al- suppose that the great body of the people are terations as these are carried in the committee, in favour of this impost, and that is baih also the concurrence of the Crown. Both houses, I prevent the Government degenerating into an let is further suppose, persist in their own oligarchy, and making some observations on measures : Dow would not the King, in such a a recent speech of the Duke of Welliogton, juucture as this, be justified in making such the learned gentleman concluded with proan augmentation to the House of Peers as posing the resolution which he had read at should carry into effect the wishes of the peo. the commenceinent of his speech, ple? But the present case was much inore | Mr. RICHARUSON, in secondiog the first refavourable to his argument, because the Re- sulution, said, that the meeting was under great form Bill had been the subject of discussion obligations to the worthy chief magistrate of for fifty years ; twice it had passed the House Leeds; fur, though he had declined to call of Commons, and the principle of the bill had the meeting, he had favoured them with the at Jength received the sanction of the House most powerful argument in favour of the obof Lords. It could not, therefore, be con: (ject they had in view, viz. the support of sidered as a sudden ill-considered movement, the independence of Parliament," which but the deliberate opinion of the great body of would be impaired if the House of Lords the nation, expressed in the most solemu and should succeed in throwing out or in maiming authentic manner by a House of Commons the Reform Bill, the main object of which elected with a particular reference to the very was to restore the independence of the House question, and since then by every other mode of Commons. In conclusion, he exhorted the iu wbich the opinion of the people can be as- people not to allow any adverse decision on certained. This measure has also the ap- the Reforin Bill to induce them to commit any proval of the King. If under these circuni- breach of the peace; but by firm, peaceful, stances the House of Lords could be permit- energetic, and constitutivnal efforts, coutique ted to defeat the wishes of the House of Com- to further that great cause, being assured that mons, the people, and the King, we should no a measure patrouized hy the King, the Minis. longer live under a limited monarchy, consist-ters, the House of Commons, and the people, ing of Kiog, Lords, and Commons, but of an can never be defeated by a factiou in the oligarchy, consisting of a majority of the House of Peers. House of Peers. The constitution, to remedy The Chairman then put the motion, when such a collision, has given the King the power immediately a forest of bands were held up in to add to the number of the peers. The crisis its favour: on putting the negative, there ap. foreseen has arrived ; and if ever there existed peared three dissentieuts, by which a pretty a great emergency which called for the exer- fair calculation may be made between the recise of the royal prerogative, it is on the formners and the anti-reformers in the borough present occasion; and he was convinced that of Leeds. an infusiou of new and better blood into that Mr. Baines preseated bimself, and was reancient house was a consummation most de- ceived with lourd plaudits. He said, our next voutly to be wished. He had said, on a former proceeding will be to determine upon an address occasion, that the House of Lords could not to be presented to his Majesty, to express the constitutionally reject that bill: that was still opinions that we entertain upon this subject. his opivion, though he did uot mean to repeat it affords ine great pleasure to see here so the expression which had given rise to some many of the faces which I have been accuscontroversy, and the assertion was treated as if toided to see upou fornier occasions, when we be liad said that the House of Lords had bave met for the purpose of soliciting for renot the power of giving it a negative,-that form. (Hear.) Gentlemen, we shall assuredly they could not say no. I did not mean to say accomplish our object. It may be attended anything so foolish: what I said was this, with some dificulty in the attainment, but we that it was necessary and expedient, and that shall not value it the less because of that diffithey ought to have said “ ay." The learnel culty. (No, no.) It has long been a matter gentleman, after putting this arguincnt in a of consideration with us; we have pressed it striking point of view, hy supposing the abo- forward by every means in our power ; aud if lition of colonial slavery to be the subject- the people of England continue to urge their matter in dispute between the two houses, or suit, the bill will uudoubtedly be carried withrather between the whole country, including out being materially altered. The Duke of the King and the House of Peers, paid a just Wellington and his compeers have, as you tribute to the manly consistency of Lord Grey, have already heard, put forth an address io who, from his first introduction into the the form of a protest; and in that prutest be House of Commons, to the preseut hour, had advances several propositions which I have no always been the steady advocate of parlia- hesitation in declaring unfounded, and directly mentary reform. After reading an extract contrary to the truth. (Hear, hear.) I do not from the Edinburgh Review, in answer to the mean to say that the Duke has deliberately question, “ What will the Lords do?” whicb, uttered a falsehood, but I do say, that he and after describing the state jato which the coun those who have acted with him, are utterly try would be thrown by the two Houses dif. uuacquainted with the state of the country as fering upon the Reform Bill, says, that the tu this great question. The Duke has said the increase of peers is the remedy which the i British Government is a monarchy. I do not constitution las provided for this state of deuy it, but I say it bas popular branches as things, and which is a necessary check, to well as a monarchical principle; and therefore
it is more than a monarchy. It is a government and of falsehood. (It is.) Then there is consisting of three estates; and the estates of another cousideration, and it is of considerwhich this Government is constituted are, able importance, and that is, what the conse. King, Lords, and Commons. (Hear, bear.) 1 quence will be if Parliament should advance But it is uufortunately constituted of more the qualiticatiou of the elective franchise from than three, and the fourth estate is an usurp- | 101. to 151. ? Why, justead of the numbers ation-an oligarchy, that rules over and con- that at present constitute the electors, they trols buth King, Lords, and Commons. (Hear.) ! will very likely be reduced to 3,000 in Leeds, It is to put an end to this oligarchy that we and in the same proportion in other places ; are labouring, and therefore, when the Duke and is it a fitting thing that you should have of Wellington asserts that the kingly power is 3,000 people tu 'elect members to represent every thing, he asserts that which is not true 120,000? (No, no.) My opinion is that the in fact, and which I hope never will be true in franchise ought not to have been at 101. but at this country. (Cheering.) But he goes on and 71. (Cries of “ 51.,” and “ Householders.”) I says" that no change, however specious, should hear a cry of “ householders," and I don't be adopted, which would strike at the prin- mean to enter upon that point now, but I do ciple of the monarchy, or deprive the King of mean to say, that if the franchise is to be ulthe free and independent exercise of his tered at all, it ought to be made lower and not lawful prerogative." Nothing is more dis- higher. (Hear, hear.) That is my decided tant from us than to assail the monarchy. opinion upon this subject, and I am sure you The duke says, we are not to assail the will give me credit that I don't say it to please King's prerogative; certainly not, we are or displease anybody. It is my practice to met to support it,-that is the principal speak wbat I consider to be the truth, and object we have in view. (Hear, hear.) every honest man ought to pursue that line of Well, then, if that be our purpose, 1 conduct. (Hear, hear.) But there is a situasuppose the duke will hardly think we are tion in which two branches of the legislature acting in violation of the great principle that are likely to be brought, and that it is a very he has laid down; on the contrary, he will curious one. It has been glanced at by Mr. think that we are acting in support of that Wailes in his elaborate speech, and with great principle; because, how is this prerogative to spirit. We will suppose the bill having now be more fítly employed thau when it is for the passed the House of Commons, it comes next benefit of the people for which the prerogative to pass the House of Lords : they have read it was conferred? (Hear.) The duke then goes twice, and many of thein have said in pretty on and says, “ that the Reform Bill will give intelligible terms that they will reduce it in its a preponderating influence in the election of efficiency. Suppose then, that when this bill the House of Commons to the lowest classes comes to be passed they say the qualitication of inhabitants in towns, and close the door of for the elective franchise shall be 151, instead of the House of Commons against the moneyed 101., and that 30 boroughs instead of 60 shall and the colonial interest, and against the heads be disfranchised, or that they resort to any of the great commercial body." Is this true ? | other manœuvre to destroy its efficacy, how (No, no.) Is it true that this Reform Bill would the matter between thein stand? The will give to the lower classes an undue in- Commons have passed one bill and the Lords fluence ? (No, no.) My opinion is, that it another, and they each of them are deterwill not give them sufficient influence. (Hear, mined to support their owy bill. A conference hear.) It deprives a great many men, who are is then proposed. At that conference they exceedingly fit to exercise the elective fran- both remain inflexible, and in this way a cola chise, of that influence which they ought to lision arises. The consequence is, that the Possess. (Hear, bear.) Gentlemen, I will wheels of Government would be suspended. prove this to you; and' I will prove it, not by To remedy this evil the King is applied to as going to a great distance, but at home. (Hear, the arbitrator. He cannot by his own voice bear.) We happen to bave in the borough of settle the point at issue, but there is a mode Leeds no fewer than 120,000 souls. To how prescribed by the constitution, and that is, the many of these persons will this bill, as at pre- | power vested in him of creating peers ; by the sent constituted, give votes? Will it give exercise of which power on behalf of men of votes to half that number? (No.) Will it right principles the collision is termipated, give votes to one-third of that number? No; and the two conflicting branches of the legisout of 120,000 souls it will only give votes to lature will be reconciled. (Applause.) The about from 5,000 to 6,000. How, then, is it object of the address which I shall have the possible that the Duke of Wellington could honour to submit for your approbation is at stand up and assert that the consequences of once to produce this happy reconciliation, and fois bill will be to give undue influence to the to secure to the country the advantages of the lower classes of the people. The bill itself is Reform Bill in all its efficiency. (Hear.) as large in its grants as Ministers can carry, This is our prayer to the King; and this but il is the lower class only that it deprives of prayer we have no doubt his Majesty will, at influence. (Hear, hear.) Very well, then, the proper time, of whieh he and his Ministers
say that the persons who have made must be the best judges, grant to a loyal and this assertion have made it, not in the dutiful people. Mr. Baines concluded amidst spirit of truth, but in the spirit of error loud applause and clapping of hands.
Mr. Bainesthen read the following address, may be made to raise the franchise above the anil moved that it should be forwarded to 101. househollers, and it is our duty to do all Earl Grey for presentation to his Majesty :-- we can to prevent this. I, for one, ihiuk that “ To the King's most E.rcellent Majesty.
the frauchise is now low enough; but I was
willing to take what I could get. After adTi The humble Address of the inhabitants of verting to the shortuess of the votice conveu.
the borough of Leerls, in the county of in the meeting, which had brought together York, in public meeting assembled, ou the more persons than could have been expected, 19th of April, 1832.
he concluded with expressing his hearty con“ Sire,-You are nur sheet-anchor-our currence in the address. refuge in the storm. The last necessity ap. 1 The Chairman then put the address, which pears to be at hand. Resistance to reform was carried with only three dissenring voices. and the consequent delay bave uobappily pro- | After the address to the King had been duced deep injury to the most important agreed to, Mr. Wailes presented bimself, and national interests; our commerce and manu- proposed that three times three cheers should faciures are already in an alarming state of be given, which was immediately complied stagvatiou ; and the mulilation of the bill withi, amidst hearty cheeriug and the waving would issue in great public dissatisfaction, of hats. indignation, and perhaps tumult. Your Mr. R. HOWARD spoke in favour of the Majesty sears nothing, and has nothing to address. After stating that when this bill fear. You wisely identify yourself with the was first introduced he had advised the people interests of your people. We know and vene- not to be carried away by their feelings in its rate your Majesty's paternal solicitude for the favour, but to look at it with an eye of peace and happiness of your subjects. Some patience. He said he did not intend to of the Lords in Parliament kuow but little of rescind what he then said, for he still thought the people; they imperfectly appreciate their that the elective franchise ought to have been sentiments and their rigbis, and appear to given to all householders; but being conmisconstrue the use and constitution of their vinced that the present bill was as large a own house. Respect for the House of Peers measure as the Ministers could carry, he was would not be impared, either by addition to desirous of giving it all the support in his its numbers, or by alteration of its political power. sentiment, which indeed bas become neces- Mr. SMITHSON said that in cases of partner-, sary to the pure administration of public ship where one partuer was fraudulent, the affairs.
other party filed a bill against him in Chauce“We, therefore, most humbly implore that ry, and he was made to give up that portion your Majesty in this emergency, will, at the which was improperly gained, su, in this case, proper moment, by a fearless and liberal the bill was filed against the boroughmongers, exercise of your royal prerogative (in the who must soon render up their spoils. (Hear, creation of peers), at once protect us from hear, and laughter.) He should advise the an oligarchy, and with the aid of your present non-payment of taxes in case the bill were not Ministers, who alone possess the confidence of passed, and concluded by declaring tbat the the public, secure the safety of the bill, and proceedings of the day had his cordial ap. the conservation of the constitution.”
proval. (Cheers.) Mr. JOSHUA Bower, the President of the Mr. CLAPHAM, in moving a vote of thanks Leeds Political Union, said--I stand forward to the reformers of both Houses of Parliament, to second the address which has been moved said, they were deserving the approbation of by Mr. Baines for the adoption of this meet- the country, for the talent, perseverance, and ing. There has been so much said already zeal they had displayed in support of the mea. on the subject on tbis occasion, and also at sure which had excited such inteuse feeling former meetings, that nothing new can be throughout the country. The more they consaid upou it, and I should have contented my- templated the objects designed to be effected self with nierely secunding the motion, if it by the reform bill, the more would they be were not for the fear that my townsmen should couvinced that its success was intimately' CODsay Joshua Bower has grown cold in the cause nected with their best interests. Mr. Clap of reform, and that a reaction has taken ham concluded by moving place. I shall therefore say a few words. In “That the thanks of this meeting are the first place, then, I say that so far from due to his Majesty's Ministers, aud to the any reaction having taken place, into what- friends of reform in both Houses of Parliaever company I go, whetber it be of those who ment, for their persevering efforts in support bave been politicians 30 or 40 years, or those of the Reform Bill.” who have only just begun to inquire, I find Mr. Lus, in seconding the vote of thanks to that they are all more and more in favour of his Majesty's Ministers and the friends of re. the Reform Bill, and that Tories are coming form, for their exertions in the great cause, round more than ever, and nothing can now and its happy and successful issue on the prevent the measure from being carried. second reading, observed, that he attributed Half of the House of Lords are now in favour that success 'mainly to the generalship of Earl of it, pay more than half; but then the bill Grey. He had displayed great tactic and the has to go into committee, and there an attempt (nesse,-he had in fact obtained the secoud
reading not by the friends of the bill båt by' profound veneration. (Cheers.) It has been its avowed enemies. (Hear, hear.) By, the said by a precedios speaker, that the Ministers inanagement of Earl Grey the “ waverers" have succeeded in carrying the second reading had voted for the bill, with the avowed intention of..ibe bill by great generalship, skill, and of frittering it down to nothing in the commit- 'finesse. Sir, 1 infer from the result of the tee. How did the case really stand? There second reading, that a great change bas taken were but a majority present of two, and that place in the opioinus of the House of Peers, majority included Luru Wharncliffe and many relative to the necessity for reform, and the of his followers who go into the committee uuanimity of the public wish for that measure with the intention of destroying the very itals of reform which is now before Parliament. It of the bill. It is said that Earl Grey can se. augurs well for the ultimate success of that cure it at once by a creation of peers, but it measure, that the second reading bas been should be recollected that to exercise this pre carried without any exercise of the royal prerogative io a great extent, good and sufficient rogative in the creation of peers. It indicaies reasons should be assigned, and Earl Grey had that a great many of those who, when the bill so placed the natter that by the small ma- was thrown out in the last session of Parliajority it was self-evident it could not be car ment, voted against it, have become convinced ried without a new creation of peers. That that the national desire for reform must be he had never been solicited to do, and it was complied with, and will indeed be satisfied for the people of this country to declare their only with the whole unmutilated bill. It is conviction that it was necessary to be done, nevertheless quite true, that there yet exists a and by that means justifying Earl Grey in ad- strong and urgent necessity to create peers, visiog the King to exercise his prerogative in either to carry the bill safely through the comthis great and awful emergency. (Applause.) mittee, or, on the third reading, to correct the The motion was then agreed to
mutilations it may undergo in the committee. Mr. T. PLINT, jun., in proposing a motion Without such a creation, although the great to carry the resolutions of the meeting into priuciples of the bill may be preserved in the effect, said " At this late hour, Mr. Chair- committee, yet will the provisivus of jhe bill, map, I shall not trouble you with many obser- by which its priuciples are to be carried into vations ; indeed, the resolutiou which I have effect, be su altered that it will be sent back to propose does not call for any extended re. to the Commons, shorn of its honours, and no marks. I cannot, however, resist an inclina- longer worthy of that ardent attachment which tion to comment upon the subject of the resu. lis now felt for it by the Commons and the lution just carried, which the importance of vation. The will of the King, of his Ministers, that resolution fully justifies. You have been and of the people, cannot be set at defiance; called upon to tender your thanks to the Mi- and all which Earl Grey has hitherto done innisters and those members of the legislature dicates to my mind clearly and satisfactorily, who have supported the bill of reform. (Hear.) that the bill must pass soon, and pass in all There is an opinion on this subject which I its integrity and efficiency. (Cheers.) It is never conld bring my mind to prove. It is to strengthen the Minister in his determinasaid by many " We want measures, not men.” |tion to carry the bill by the means which he is Now it is true that the measures attempted or known to possess, that the address which has effected by particular public men, are those been approved by this meeting, is to be forthings by which we determine upon their warded to him for presentation to his Majesty. clains to our respect and gratitude ; but it is The iufluence of the address will be in propora cold and selfish policy to accept all tion to the number of siguatures which may be which such men effect for their country and attached tu it; and I would beg, in conclu. for mankind, without returping them sion, that each individual now present would our ardent affection and esteen. I never sign the address so soon as it shall be laid for could separate in my mind men from public signature, and induce as many as he their actions, nor consider that while I may possess influence with to do the same.". praised and admired the latter, it was right to Mr. Plint moved the following resolution : withhold my personal affection from the former; “ That the gentlemen who furmed the and when we have before us the example of a sub-committee for preparing these resolutions man who commenced his political career as a be a committee for carrying them into effect, reformer nearly forty years ago (for it was in and that they have power to add to their num1793 that Earl, then ihe bon. Charles, Grey, , ber.” presented his memorable petition for reform), Which motion being seconded, was carried who has cunsistently and perseveringly sup- unanimously. ported all great measures, who long refused Mr. Marshall having vacated the chair, office and powers, rather than compromise his which was taken by John Clapham, Esq., principles; and when, more especially, we see Mr. Whitehead moved, and Mr. Benjamin ihat individual crowning his labours by bring. Walker secouded the motivu, that the thanks ing into Parliament, and so far successfully of this meeting are due to John Marshall, carrying forward a measure of reform,-l say, Esq., for his able and impartial conduct in the sir, that such a man is entitled not merely to chair, which was put aud carried by acclama. the praise of his actions, but to our warmest tion. and most fervent affection, and to our most The meeting, consisting of about 4,000 per