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A large petition being read, wherein was something against quaking. and trembling. Just. Pear. How comes it to pass that people quake and tremble? Jam. The scriptures witness the same condition in the saints formerly; as David, Daniel, Habakkuk, and divers others. Just. Pear. Did they sall down? Jam. Yea, some of them did so. Coale. David said all his bones were broken, but these were whole. James. So are these now. Coale. Moses trembled; for he saw the face of God, and all Israel. James. Did all Israel see the face of God? that crosseth the scriptures. Coale. They saw his glory. I shall see the Lord with these eyes; putting his fingers to his eyes. James. They must first be made spiritual: he cannot be seen with carnal eyes, for he is a spirit; and no flesh can see God, and live. Coale. That light by which I am justified, is a created light. James. That light by which I am justified, is not a created light. Coale. That is true. Just. Pears. To the word: what sayst thou to the scriptures? are they the word of God? James. They are a true declaration of the word that was in them who spoke them forth. Higginson. Is there not a written word 7 James. Where readest thou in the scriptures of a written word? The word is spiritual, not seen with carnal eyes: but as for the scriptures, they are true, and I witness them true, in measure fulfilled in me, as far as I am grown up. Just. Pears. Why dost thoudisturb theministers in their public worship. James. I have not disturbed them in their public worships. Just. Pears. Why dost thou speak against tithes, which are allowed by the states? James. I meddle not with the states; I speak against them that are hirelings, as they are hirelings; those that were sent of Christ, never took tithes, nor ever sued any for wages. Just. Pears. Dost thou think we are so beggarly as the heathens, that we cannot afford our ministers maintainance? We give them it freely. James. They are the ministers of Christ, who abide in the doctrine of Christ. Just. Pears. But who shall judge? how shall we know them 7 James. By their fruits you shall know them; they that abide not in the doctrine of Christ, make it appear they are not the ministers of Christ. Just. Pears. That is true.
neither wilt thou suffer thy holy one to see corruption. Thou hastideo...?" livered my soul out of death: bless the Lord, my soul, and all that # within me bless his holy name.’ How darest thou profess the scriptures, . . . and the holy men of God's conditions, which were raised and brought * . out of death; and if any witness the holy men of God's condition, thou persecutest them? O thou blind hypocrites here thou showest thou * never sawest hell's mouth yet, therefore thou never criedst in hell yet. . O. 4. ‘That he was come to the infinite company of the first born, ... and the spirits of just men made perfect.' . . . A. Paul said, (who was a minister of God,) but ye are come to Mount ...’ Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, “and . ; to an innumerable company of angels, to the general assembly and so church of the first born, which are written in heaven; unto God the judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect. Paul was a o minister of Jesus Christ by the will of God,” who encouraged the saints. ... who were brought hither; but thou now persecutest them, and art a § witness against them that confess they are brought hither; here. thou showest, thou hast the spirit of error, openly: and art no minister:
of God, no, not of the letter; but art against the letter as it speaks, per- o secuting them that have the life of it. roo O. 5. That he had heard the last trumpet sound, and seen the new Jerusalem. A. Here thou showest forth thy spite and venom: if John was here, which saw the great city and holy Jerusalem descend out of heaven . from God (John said, I saw the holy city, New Jerusalem, come down from God out of heaven) thou wouldst be a witness against him; and thou showest thyself in the generation that were ever persecutors, slanderers, and opposers of the power of truth. Where the same spirit is that was in John, he sees these things now, as he did then, but where the same spirit is not, which thou showest thou hast not, but a contrary spirit that persecutes them which do see those things—this is as a dog to bite and devour. John saw the trumpet sound, which shows thou art not come to the first. Blow the trumpet in Sion, sound an alarm in my holy mountain; let all the inhabitants of the carth tremble. Here be thou a witness against thysels, that thou art a witness against the truth, and in the generation of them that ever slew the righteous sced. G. 6. That John Lawson said he had God face to sacc. A. Here thou showest thyself to be a witness against them that know God, and makest thyself manifest to be a heathen: sor all are heathens that do not know God; and no man knoweth God, saving he that is born of God; and who are born of God, are owners of the truth, and not against it, but against the deceit. Jacob said, I have seen God face to face. Isaiah said, mine eyes have seen the king, the Lord of WoL. III. 77
hosts. Job said, I have heard of thee by the hearing of the ear; but now mine eyes have seen thee. And God spake to Moses face to face. Here you may take your oaths, and swear against Jacob, agains Isaiah, against Job, and against Moses. Where the same spirits made manifest; and who are born of God, know God face to face, as the did but they who are born of the flesh, persecute them who are bombs the spirit; and here you show yourselves to be taking oaths and sweat ing against them that know God, seeking to bring them to prison of bondage: so you never read in all the scriptures, that the prophets of the apostles took their oaths against any which confessed they had seen God, or put up a petition to the magistrates, or witnessed it with oaths against any of them: the ministers of God said, swear not at all. And here you show yourselves to be no ministers of God, but without God for the ministers of God are to bring people to know God, and to the church in God, and to the heavenly Jerusalem, and to the innumera. ble company of angels, and minister to that which is in prison, and in death: but if any come to witness these things fulfilled, you are wit nesses against them with oaths, and would bring the bodies of suchino prison, where the seed of God is raised out of prison within; showing yourselves to be antichrists, persecutors of the power of truth, and
beasts which shall make war against the saints, and against the Lamb. but the Lamb shall get the victory.
Job cried when the Lord hid his face, and David cried when the Lord hid his face, and said, O Lord, I will seek thy face. And here you show, you neither know his face, nor have seen it; but are persecutors of them who know it and seek it.
Praises, praises be to the Lord for ever.
INDEX. . . . .
Answer to Thomas Collier's book, call-
self from Scandals,” 1492
“Satan Enthroned in his Chair,’ &c. 154
nil, John Andrews, Thomas Ewen, Brian . . . ;
Hanson, and Richard Moon's book, called
Answer to Jonathan Clapham and Wil:
tures and Ministers. 187
Answer to Jeremiah Ives' book, called ' ...o.
‘The Quakers' Quaking,” 196
Gospel and an inquiring Christian,” 210 o'
Answer to John Billingsly's book, called
Answer to Matthew Caffin's book, called
parts adjacent, 249
Answer to Ralph Farmer's book, called