LordGrosvenor followed to the same effect, der spoke best for itself. The Bill in ques and gave Ministers credit for the best inten tion, from its title, clearly contained matter tions.

obnoxious to the standing Order of the House; Lord Eldon said, he only regretted that lie, therefore, deemed it incumbent on hinx the Negociation had been so long procrasti- to move, that the Bill be rejected. nated; though he thougbt our Negociators This proposition njeeting the concurrence were justified by the great responsibility of their Lordships, it was, on the questie which attached to them.

on being put, ordered accordingly, and After a reply from Lord Grenville, the the Bill rejected.--A Message was ordered Address was carried, nem. con.

to be sent to acquaint the Commons thereJan. 3. The Controverted Election Bill withe read a third time and passed.

12. Lord Grenville gave notice, that he 6. The Royal Assent was given to the should on Friday se'nnight move the second Bill above mentioned.

reading of the Bill for abolishing the Slave 7. Mr. Hobhouse brought up the Malt Trade; and the house was ordered to be Duty, and the Pension Duty Bills, froin the sunimoned for that day. Commons, which were read a first time. Lord Hawkesbury repeated the observa

8. The Malt and Pension Duty Bills were tions which be made on a former night, enread a second time.

forcing the propriety of having some inforLord Spencer reported the answer of his mation as to the coinmunications which his Majesty 10 their Lordships' Address. Majesty had held with Foreign Powers, on

9. The order being read for the House the subject of the Abolition of the Slave going into a Committee for granting to his Trade, in pursuance of their Lordships' AdMajesty certain Duties on Malt, and for re dress of ihe 24th of last July; and conmoving doubts with respect to the issue of Er- cluded with moving an address to his Majes chequr. Bills, &c. the Lord Chancellor quit. ty, for copies of such communications. ted the toolsack, and stated, that the Bill, Lord Grenville saw no objection to the from the title their Lurdships had just heard motion, if it received a very slight modificaread, was one oi serious and preuliar impor- tion, which was the introduction of the words, tance; inasmuch as it contained matter tv as far as his Majesty shall think proper." reign from that of the regular aid and supply - This was agreed to. for the service of his Majesty; and farther, 13, 14. Counsel was heard in some Apas it directly militated against one of their peal Cases; and a few Bills were forwarded Lurdships' standing orders, which provided in their respective stages. for the rejection of Bills so circumstanced. 15. The Exchequer Bills Bill was read a He would therefore move, that the relevant third time, and passed.--The House was ocstanding order of the House be read. cupied the remainder of the day in hearing

The order was accordingly read by the Appeals. Clerk : it imported, that Money Bills, con 16. The Duke of Richmond and the Bitaining matter toreign from the regular aid shop of Ely took the oaths and their seais. and supply to be granted to his Majesty, The Royal Assent was notified, by Com. were unparlamentary, destructive of the mission, to the Exchequer Bills Bill, and to Constitution of the Government, and ouglat soine Private Bills. to be rejecied.

The New Mali-Duty Bill was read a seThe Noble and Learned Lord then ob cond time; and Bowyer's Lottery Bill was served, it would be a waste of their Lord. reported. ships' time tu insist upon the point; the O: Adjourned till Tuesday.


mented in a great degree the military renown MR. Peter Moure prescnted a petition and character of the British armies. It ever

from Mr. Bowyer, tor leave to bring there was a period in which it was peculiarly in a Bill to enable him to draw by a separate necessary that the national feeling and the Lottery, in case the next Staie Luilery should military renowu of the country should be not contain a sutlicent number or Tickets. high, it was now, when all the world ap. Leave given.

peared to be turned into one great campMr. Windhain, on rising to move for a when mitary occupations had every where Vole of Thanks to Sir J. Stuart, bis Onlicers taken place of all the pacific arts of life. and Meu, took al vicw of the action of Maida; We had not lately had so many opportunities and observed, that it added more than al of gaining glory by land as by sea: and upon most any that had been fought in Lodern that account, our enemies bad worked themtimes to our national glory, which was at all selve's up to believe, and had endeavoured times one of the most valuable possessions 10 persuade the world, that our military that any country could have. Oiher services power was continedi w operations by sea; that had contributed as highly to the streayth and no were iudeed great and powerful by sea, prosperity of the empire, but the peculiar bui by no means equally so by land. They value and importance of this, that ting. Represented us is having a talent, and a suit

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of a knack in winning battles by sea; but the been professed, no such system had ever yet immediate tendency of this battle would be, been adopted. to convince the world, that by the marked Lord Howick opposed the motion, on the valour of our soldiers, we are by land a full principle tuat the salary was only a moderate match for their boasted and experienced compensation for the office; and that the veterans. He recapitulated the statements saving of such an expense for the constant of the respective turces engaged in that ne attendance of one person who was perfectly morable atfair; and said that it was proved master of the business, would be more thair by documents taken on the personis oi French counter-balanced by the irregularity, delay, officers who were killed, that their number and incouvenience that must arise from was 8000. We had stated the loss of the throwing the duty generally upon the Menenemy at ouly 700 killed; whereas it after- bers of the House. His Lordship therefore wards turned out that they had 1300 killed; moved the Order of the Day, which was that they dust 1300 prisoners, taken in the carried.--On the motion of Lord Folkestone, battle; and that 2000 more were atterwards the order for considering the Petition of Mr. made prisoners; while the whole of our force Paull was deferred till the 24th of February. was only 5000. He concluded with making --The House theu adjourned to Monday: the motions in the usual forn, wbuch were 29. The consideration of the Petitions seconded by Sur J. Doyle, and carried, nem. against the Penrhyn election was put off till con.—Lord Howick presented the Negocia the 29th January; as was that from Londontion Papers, and tixed this day tortnight lor derry. Those from Shrewsbury and Worcester their discussion.

were fixed for the 3d of February; and that 3. Dir. Ilobhouse obtained leave for a

from Nortolk, against the retura otMs. Bull to revive and render permanent the Act Widhan, for the 5th. relative to the trial of Controveries Elections.

In a Commuttee of Supply, Dir. Grenville On the motion of Mr. l'ausittart, a Supply stated, that there were no particular services, Was ordered to be granted to ins Majesty. or circumstances, which called for an extent

1. Mr. Bidduipo noved lu abolish the of naval force diferent from that which had salary annexed to the office of Chairman of been vpled for the last year; he did not, the Committee of Ways und Meanis. lle therefore, think it necessary to detain the disclaimed all notives for such a proceeding House with any prelimmary observations; ekcept those ol duty to his country, ile had he should only propose to them to vote for done it with the approbation of many of his the present year precisely the same nunsber friends; and he brought it forward thus early, which had been voted for last. He therebefore any Genuenian was appointed to the fort inoved, that the following sums should office, in order that any person whwassumed be gramed for the expense of maintaining it might be aware of the circumstances ouder

the sand 120,000 Seamen:--For pay (13 wluch it would be accepted. Bul when he

mouthis), at 11, 178. per man, cach wouldı adverted to that passage in ins Jajisty's 2,886,0001.- l'ictualling, 1L 18s. per man, speecli, m which bis Majesty, oui ui bus pa- .,961 0001.-Wear and tear, 31. dito, lernal regard to his people at a moment when

4,680,000.--Ordnance, 5l. ditio, 390,00 new exigencies rendered new burtbeus neces

--These Resolutions were agreed to. sary, recommends the most strict attention iv

30. A peution against the return of Mr. economy in every branch on the public ex

Longman for Maidstone was ordered for penditure, he should conctnie, that not to

consideration ou the 10th February; as was de upon that recommendation would be a

one against the Dublin Election. --The pelo vivlation of public confidence. The ullice ot

Lions from Chippeubam were tixed for Feb. 2. which he was speaking was certainly impor Earl Temple moved for a Committee, lo taut; but it required no great talemis, nor consider of the possibility and propriety of any great portion of knowledge, which any

permutling the use of Sugars and Molasses mau might not acquire wall coinmon appli in the disillation of Spirits. In consequence calon lle saw no reason why ile duties of

of the operations of the enemy, and the the Chairnian of the Waysand Jeans shonde

Simizure of Lauburghi, there were now from Rot be divided among ibe Alembers of the

80 to 90,000 hugheads of Sugar un hand in House generally, or discharged by some of the City of London only; and taking the the young Curumissioners ui the Treasury, vi hom of England, he beneved, there were who received large salaries with very laule 100,013 novsheads blived and warehoused, tu do for them. It might be said, thai ilie

lor which, al present, the West India dierpropused retrenchment was an unsund mea

chants had no market. This caused a pressure sure; but to this he would answer, that the

on those Niercunt, which was such as exigencies of the times, and the distresses of

would, in lus opinions, induce the House to the people, were also unusual, and the de

tuuak a sutlicient ground to intertere. parture truu ordmary mesures was per

was not in any case mteuded that Uus should fectly justitied by extraordmary unes.

be admired in exclusion of Grain, but only radical change was ausuluiely necessary to allow a lair competition. His inolion was in the public expenditures of Ilie country; arreed 10. and, notwildstanding all that had hetcluture

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of the Committee last Session, also moved, 31. In a Committee of Ways and Means, * That a Comniittee be appointed to consider Mr. Vansittart moved, that the Duties on the State of the Woollen Manufactures of Malt now subsisting, should be renewed for England, and to report their Observations another year. He also moved for a renewal and Opinions thereon, from time to time, to of the duties upon Pensions and Places; and the House."--The motion was agreed to. the continuance of the duties upon Sugar;

Mr. Perceval asked for some information as also of the Excise duties on Tobacco and relative to the Correspondence which led to Snuff.--Agreed to. the Negociation? He obserred, that the Jas. 1. Petitions were presented from Declaration of his Majesty asserted that the the following places, complaining of undue first overture came from the French Govern. Returns, and were ordered to be taken into ment, and that the basis was the uti possidetis. consideration on the days annexed, viz: The French say, the basis was the treaty of Sudhury, against Sir J. C. Hippesley and Amiens. The extract of the letter of the Mr. Pytches, Feb. 17.-Rochester, against 5th March refers to the Emperor's speech to J. Barnett, Esq., Feb.19.-Newcastle-underthe Senate', and the particular part alluded Line, against W. Bootle, Esq., Feb. 19.to is, where he says, “ I am always ready Glasgow, against A. Campbell, Esq., March 1o make peace on the basis of the treaty of 17.-County of Mayo, against the Hon. D. Amiens." The other part of this private Browne, and the Hon. A. Dillon, Feb. 24. letter might show this matter in its true light. Malmsbury, and Wick in Caithness, Feb. It Ministers have made his Majesty assert 26.-Lanark, Colchester, and Great Yarin his Declaration, what was not the fact, mouth, March 3.-Hythe, March 5. that the first overture came from the French Lord Howick observed on the necessity of Governinent, and the basis the uti possidetis, fixing some day beyond which private Bills which the French Government strenuously should not be received by the House; as contended for, then they have been guilty the late periods at which they were preof a heinous offence.

sented; unnecessarily protracied the public Lord Howick, in answer, deelared that business. Out of 204 private Bills passed the parts of the Letters which were sup- in the last Session of Parliament, no less pressed, were entirely of a private nature, than 31 were received atier the King's birthon which Mr. P. withdrew his motion. day, and 78 reported after that day.--Seve

Lord Yarmouth said, he thought it ne ral Memhers expressed their approbation of cessary to state to the House, that lie had the motion; which was put and carried. to communication with Mir. Fox prior to his 2. This being the last day for receiving communication with M. Talleyrand. He had petitions respecting controverted Elections, beca three years a prisoner in France; and, petitions were presented from the underjust before the period alluced 10, was given named places, and appointed for considerato understand, that Mr. Fox had very much tion on the days respectively annexed; viz. interested himself to procure bis release. Nottingham, Jan. 22.--Shattesbury, March He had not any particular acquaintance with 3.-Colross, March 24.-Guildford, March Mr. Fox; but he understood that it had been 5.- Lancaster, March 10.--Taunton, March done at the particular instance of an il 10.- Melbourne Port, two petitions, March lustrious Personage. When he arrived at 10.- Honiton, three petitions, against the Paris, Lord Elgin, and some others, were Hon. Cav. Bradshaw, March 12.-Christready to set off, and he was sent for by M. church, March 12.-East Looe, March 17. Talleyrand, to be the bearer of the commu- --Newry, March 17.-Edinborghi, March nication. Why he was fixed on he could not 26.--Second petitions were presented from say, unless it was supposed that he was par the following places, and ordered for conticularly acquainted with Mr. Fox, from the sideration on the same days as the former; applications made in his behalf. The com viz. Dublin, Glasgow, Shrewsbury, and munication was not reduced to writing; but Malmsbury. he was sure the basis wus the uti possidetis, Bowver's Lottery Bill was read a second because M. Talleyrand said they would not time, and committed. take the Treaty of Amiens, for that would be Mr. Vansittart brought up the Malt Duty productive of endless quarrels. The status Bill, and the Ollices and Pensions Duty Bill; quo ante bellum was Jiahle to the same or which were read a first time. He then mored, greater objections; and, therefore the uti that the House should resolve itself into a possidetis, which he took to be a right to Committee of Supply, and that the Account mutual exchanges, was the only one which of Exchequer Bills, presented yesterday to could be tonable. When it was known that the House, should be referred to the said D. D’Oubril was coming to Paris as a ne Cominittee. gociator, and it was deemed ne

The Speaker having left the Chair, Mr. send one fronı hence for the saine purpose, Vanuittart moved, that 10,500,0001. be graniit was thought proper that the communication ed to his Majesty, for paying off 10,500,0001. made to him by M. Talleyranci should be re- raised for the year 1803, by Loans on Ex. duced to writing, and be did so accordingly chequer Bills, outstanding and unprovided so the 13th.


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The House resum ed, and the Report wa reason for not committing to paper the offer ordered to be received to-morrow.

which Talleyrand made to Lord Yarınoutlet 3. The House was engaged chiefly in respecting Hanover. He continued to argue Election arrangements. The Speaker, who at much length to show that the uti possidetis was chosen for Oxford and Heytesbury, was the original basis understood by botta made his Election for the former. `J. Los- Governments. The King's Declaration stated ther, Esq., returned for Cockermonth and the basis to be the uti possidetis, and on that the County of Cumberland, took Cumbere point the Negociation arose. Lord Tarland. Sir C. Hawkins, Bart,, returned for mouth, on his return to Paris, found M. Peurhyn, Grampound, and another Borough, D'Oubril there; the aspect of affairs was chose Grampound. Mr. Vansittart, retur materially changed in regard to Sicily; and ned for Helsion and Old Sarum, scated him when M. D'o, signed the Russian Treaty self for Old Sarom. -Xew Writs were with France, Lord Y. felt himself in a very ordered for the above, and otlier vacated difficult situation; and found that he had

no viher means of proceeding, but by produ3. The House, in a Committee of Supply, cing his full powers. He said he did not voted 10,500,0001, in a Loan of Exchequer mean to blame Lord Y. for so doing; his Bills, for the service of Great Britain; and Lordslip was doubtless zealous to serve his the report was ordered to be received to country; but the production of his full pow

ers at that moment was contrary to the NEGOCIATION WITH FRANCF.

wishes of Government, and to the instrucLord Howick, on noving for the farther

tions he had received. Upon this, Lord consideration of the Negociation Papers, obe Lauderdale was sent over; and the first served, that Gentlemen having maturely thing that Nobleman did, was to present a considered the magnitude of the object they note to the French Government, calling upon involved, it became his duty to move an

it for a declaration and acknowledgment of Address, “ to assure his Majesty of the de. the original basis. His Lordship was in. termination of the House to support him in structed, in the event of no such acknowthe war.” The failure of the Negociation ledgment being made, immediately to for Peace was to him an object of decp re.

return. He soon had occasion to demand gret, aggravated as it had been by a rapid his passports. In the meantime, France resuccession of events, which, in their effects, ceived the news of the Emperor of Russia's he was afraid would still retard that blessing. refusal to ratify the treaty signed by D'OuHe lamented the death of Mr. Fox, who bril; and on this a fresh Negociation comwas in his last moments anxious to restore inenced, but it was equally unsatistactory. peace to his country; and said he would en. Lord L. of course came home; and thus was deavour to show that Ministers had, in no the history of the Negociation. Lord How. instance, committed the honour of the Crown, ick then proceeded 10 comment on the facts by agreeing to any sacrifice on the one hand; he had stated, arguing strongly in favour of while on The other he trusted he should the openness and candour wluch distinclearly prove, they had neglecied no means guished Ministers in the progress of the to conclude such a peace as would have been business. It might be condensed in this congenial io the interests, the dignity, and way: England refused to negociate, but in security of the country. He insisted that conjunction with Russia, and up to the 20th the tirst overture for peace was made on the of April no resistance was made by France part of the enemy, and that the Negociation to such an arrangement. Ministers iad been was instituted on the basis of our actual pos- called the dupes of Talleyrand; but the assession. He then traced the Correspondence sertion was grossly untounded. He then from its commencement; paid many compli- proceeded to dwell upon and recapitulate the ments to Mr. Fox for his firmness in resisting principal points, drawing inferences as he the attempts of Talleyrand 10 separate the

went on in favour of the line of condact, interests of this country and Russia; and followed by Mmusters, contrasted with the observed, that Talleyrand cudeavoured to duplicity and tergiversation of the French obtain an adoption of the system resorted to

Government. His Lordship concluded by in the Marquis of Rockinghiain's Administra- moving the Address. tion; but Lord Yarmouth distinctly stated,

Lord Yarmouti spoke in explanation of that the original offer made by Talleyrand 10

his conduct; and ailer cuinmeuung on the tito, was to open a Negociation on the basis state of Europe in the beginning of 1806, of actual possession, and this declaration to show that there was no hope of saving his Lordship had since confirmed. This fact Europe by war, he insisted, that whoever had explained the extraordinary delay in Talley. been sent from England to open a NegociaTand's not answering Mr. Bor's communica- fion, could not have remained in Paris 1% tion sooner. Lord Yarmonth, in June, waited hours without producing his full powers. upon burn by his own desire; and he told his His Lordshop saw the first Minister of France Lordship he had been looking out for some at once, who told him that circunstances means of opening a confidential intercourse were materially changed. He repeated to with the British Ministry. This was the Talleyrand the basit of actual possession ;

and he was almost certain that no objection ment had declared his determination netet would have been started against it, or that to yield. ller interests would have been seit would have received any other coustruction cured to a much greater extent than could Ihan its fair and obvious meaning, had it not have been reasonably expected, considering ben for the death of Mr. Fux. It was also the uniform success of the arms of France on a lact, thal, upon one occasion, Talleyrand the Continent. lle could not find the basis

a passiuli, declared he liad never propused of the uti possidetis any where admitted by the uti possidetis; but Lord Y. said he was the French Government. Their rising in prisitive as to the fact of his having proposed their demands after the Treaty with D'Oubril that as the basis, at least as one of the base, was perfectly natural, and would have been Lut the conclusion of Peace. lle adımitted imitated by this or any other country under usat lie was ordered not to produce his full similar circumstances. Peace, he added, powers till the basis of peace was acknow would be a boon to tlus country; and even ledged. His Lordship concluded with freely though it were concluded but for a short ccisuring the conduct of Munsters for not period, it would be much easier to continue accedmg to the terms offered, considering it when obtained, than to attain it in a state ibem as lughly advantageous, and urged the of warfare. Even Lord Yarmouth had deimpolicy of sutt' ring the interest of Russia clared, that in France, the spirit of anito stand in the way of peace. .

mosity and bitterness wliich prevailed there Mr. Montague could not assent to the Ad at the commencement of the war, was condress, on the principles advanced by Mini- siderably changed. Even the last declarasters, in justification of their conduct. llc tion of ihe French Governinent, on breaking thought the Negociation should not bave off the Negociation, concluded with exbeen commenced ur carried oll as it had been. pressions of regret for its rupture, and of The enemy had, in limine, a great advantage readiness to renew the Negociation at any 2013 the known predilection of Mr. Fox for time or place, amid the chances of war. The peace. It was on thus priuciple avowed, at Emperor of Russia, in his Manifesto, after the most uutavoureble periods of hostility, his refusal to ratify D'Oubril's treaty, prodist the French Monster buult liis hopes of fessed a similar disposition. Why, then, cajuling bım mto vernis. He was, in fact, should Great Britain be alone averse to practising on the weak side of Mr. Fox.

restore so desirable a blessing to oppressed Blowerer he might have endeavoured, Europe? No man would be more ready wab this view, to impress ilie British Mmi than himself to go to the foot of the throne ster with a nouo: ot lus being ready to treat with an assurance to support his Majesty in on the basis of the uti possidatis, there was the prosecution of any war necessary to supDothms in the papers to obow that he had port the honour of Ins crown, or the welfare ever been distinctly brouglit to admit it. of liis dominions; but be only wished that The only img wlove hi appeared on the face the roads to peace might not be blocked up, o lleni was, that Mr. Fox, tomhus ex nur ihe gates of mercy shut against mankind. torine anxiety to bring about a peace', was Mr. W. concluded by expressing the exLabouring thinglout to brng the French treme regret lie ielt at differing on auy subject Governancnt to some such basis. lfe highly from his riend; but he should feel a gross approved of the line vi conduct held by dereliction of lus duty to his country, it he Lord Yarnivuil; but concerved that Lord forbore to declare nis sentiments on this Lauderdale had remamed at Paris much subject. Jle moved an amendment to the Jonger than he onght, and that we had been Address; which was to expunge all the conte duped and bamboozled by Talleyrand. cludmg paragraph, and insert in its place Sir T. Turion was opinion that the Ne.

other woros, assuring his Majesty of tbe de: gociation did not commence in the most termination of the House to support his digufied manner; but on looking at the Majesty in a war necessary to defend the Papers on the table, jie was cominced that honour of his crown and the security of his it was 100 buistily broken off. fe did not kingdom; and at the sanie time entreating think that musters were warranted m putting his Majesty to co-operate with his fathtul ab end 10 it, on the ground ot the alliance Commons in the best means of restoring to with Russia.

Jus people the blessings of peace. B!r. Hilibread went at length into the Nir. Carning passed a bigh eulogium on hisioss of the Negociation, as it appared in the sprech of Mr. Whitbread, and expressed ibe documents before the llouse; and cen hus conviction that the asseverations in the sured, in the severest terms, the conduct of Declaration ucre not borne out by the stateMonsters in brcaharig it off. He contended, menis in the Papers: he used many arguital, after the deall of Mr. Fox, they no ments to show the disadvantages accruing iq Jonger sunglit peace in the spirit of peace. this couniry from protractmg the logocia. In the lo smislu nliich France was ready to tion, both with respect to her own inmediato assent, the lionour of the country was abun policy, and to her influence in foreigu states, dantly consulter, because those very points particularly as this circumstance affected were conceded, on whicli, in a moment of Prussia; and concluded with observing, that passion, the chief of the French Govern.. had the country beca in such a state of

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