The public priats have directed their eties,-of" Widow's Friends,"-ofViattention to the statements contained in sitjugSocieties for the Sick,"--of “Prothe Appendix, of the particulars of vident Societies," -of “ Clothing Socithose foundations which evince the be- eties," &c. &c. all unknown to the pevolence and piety of their founders. public, the charities of the Christian We are mistaken, if that were the prin. heart are daily moderatiog the anguish cipal purpose intended by the institution of human woe. Such are the glories of the Comunittee, and having had the of our metropolis ! and their influence subject, though in different forms, re- is telt in other large towns. We peatedly before us, we rather prefer speak not of those noble charities which that view of it which concerns the lower occasionally call on the public for asorders, properly so described ; especially sistance, the acknowledged institutions that class, which is at once our com- of British benevolence; but we allude to patriots and strangers; our brethren, those which are private, we might say, and refugees ; who deserve and desire) secret, in which the young who can ply a better fate ; but, by their very ad- the needle, ply it for the advantage of herence to what they deem their duty, the distressed and disconsolate ;-to those are doomed to suffer the iniseries of life-in which the sympathy of more mature long ihisappointment.

years directs medical aid, and the sick We descend to a class still lower than man's head reposes on the bosom of frathat of the parents, whose necessities are ternal affection, though the parties never felt by the patrous of charity-schools to

saw each other till the present moment; be sufficient recominendation to the ad

-of those which endeavour to prevent the vantages thry afford. Those schools ravages of vice, to recall the wanderer, have done inurh ; but they cannot do

to remonstrate with the profligate, to reevery thing: the vumbers they admit sist evil, wherever and whenever demusi, of enurse, be limited: the in- tected; and of those which drop a tear, struction they afford, must be shirt, to where etfectual succour is beyond their allow as many as possible to partake of power. it. Since they were instituted, a kind

But among all which can be men. of new world has opened on the science tooed, those institutions which confer and practice of education; and since the blessing of Education on the india they were thoaght sufficient, a prodi-geut and the outcast, stand conspicuous : gious increase of population has ren. They sow a seed, to be reaped in sucdered their numbers, once tolerably pro

ceeding years ; they train up the infant portionate, almost trivial, in compa- mind for the practice of manly virtue ; rison with what the urgencies of the they implant principles ; to be buried, tim s demand,

perhaps, for a while ; but hereafter to Benevolence has stepped forward with shoot up to light and life, to be watered new vigour to meet ihe diversities of with the dews of heaven, to expand their misery. It assumes a thousand different branches, and extend their benetits to shapes; each highly honourable; all green old age. together bryond the belief of those who Will the reader believe it possible, have not some practical acquaintance that there should be in any part of the with the suhjert. No hazards have been Christian world, in any Church assumthought terrific; no labours have been ing the distinction of Apostolir, a fixed, suffered to enter into the estimate; no an immovable, resistance, to the diffurepulse has been regarded; no ingrati-sion of these advantages ? and why? tudr has been felt; if ever perseve- Avowedly, because they are conferred

were the determination of the by laymen; not by the priesthood! Are bnman mind, it has been, it still is, the priests of that profession so numer among those on whom descends the ous, then, that they alone are compe blessings of the thousands who were tent to the work ? No: they are confessready to perish.”

edly exhausted by the labours of theis Under a nomenrlature, infinitely di-office : they are too few for the disTersified, of “Good Samaritan" Soci-charge of their established duties. "The


number of priests is so small, says Mon .... They are excceedingly noisome, and tague Burgoyne, Esq. that they have it neglected; so that, it is the most offensive in their power to pay very little atten- part of my profession to visit the poor in tion to the condition of ihe (Cathohr)

that vicinity.

Is it your opinion that the scavengers, or pour; but, in justice to them, I must say, they work extremely hard in at- do not sufficiently discharge their duty ?

persons who shou'd inspect the streets, tending the sick and dying.” The Ro- I am afraid the scavengers are seldom to man Catholic clergy " are worn down be found in those streets : one thing I with fatigue,” says Mr. Butler. They have sometimes remarked there, was, that are a “very small nun,ber," says their human beings, hogs, asses, and dogs, were Vicar A pustolic, Dr. Poynter. And yet, associated in the same habitation; and ander this paucity of assistance, that great heaps of dirt, in different quarters, Church refuses to entrust her own laity other reason of their ill health is this, that

may be found piled up in the streets. Anwith any branch of religious instruction, some of the lower habitations have neither by which the children of this very laity windows nor chimnies nor floors, and are might be edified! While thousands are so dark that I can scarcely see there at perishing, both body and soul, for lack mid-day without a candle. I have actually, of knowledge, the Church refuses con- gone into a ground-floor bed-room, and sent ! In full view of their miseries, and could not find my patient without the · under the contemplation of these accu- / light of a candle. mulated evils, conscious of what would that infectious complaints prevail through

Dr. Adams has observed in his book, correct them, knowing well the remedy out the vear in the parish of St. Giles, for these inexpressible calamities, con has that fact come under your knowledge vinced of what is necessary to remove I have no doubt of the fact being so : this gross scandal from her community, and have often found that the great obthe Church-cruel step-mother! denies stacle to my curing surgical diseases is the her sanction to the labours of love, anong ill state of health arising mostly from her own sons!

filthiness, the people being sometimes coThe reader will not credit this. He vered with vermin. bas heard the Church of Rome condemn- decline attending patients in St. Giles's ?

Have you ever known professional men ed fur bigotry, for intolerauce, for su

I have known medical men who refused perstition, perhaps, and for bliudness; to go into the interior parts of St. Giles's? but, that she should, by choice, see her from personal fear, and because of the children beggars, thieves, prostitutes, filthy state of the habitations I believe criminals of the worst order; corroded that is common with medical meu in the with diseases, and the terror even of me

weighbourhood. dical men; rather than see them under

What do they apprehend ?-Partly they other than clerical management, the are afraid of catching infectious diseases, comfort and support of their parents, annoyed in their attendance by the ill be

and partly from apprehending they will be patterns of industry, and social life, re- havior of the lower orders. ligious in the best sense of the term, re

Mr. Blair coinplains that the Catholic spectable in the world, and heirs of a

priests obstructed all endeavours at imhappy imınortality-the reader will not credii tbis. We proceed, therefore, to rated by that of Montagu Burgoyne,

provement. His evidence is corroboproduce the evidence. We have said,

E-q. who, however, was not deterred perishing both body and soul.” Let from visiting such schools as the CathoMr. Blair, as a professional man, speak lics bave established. his experience on the bodily sufferings of these most deplorable objects of com

In your visits to those schools, did you

find that the children were in a miserable passion.

state?-Very much so: the greater proThe Catholic poor are so numerous, portion of them diseased more than any that every floor, and every chamber of children lever saw ; humours, lamenesses, every floor, is closely inhabited, several ricketty, certainly the effects of negligence beds are frequently seen in ove room, and in infaucy: and though they have increas. several persons in one bed ..... They are ed so much iu number, the number that very sickly when crowded close together dies is very great. It is a disgrace to this

country, that they should be permitted to thought of such an establishment, calllive in that kind of way, so that absolutely ling itself a Christian church? if false their habitations become a nuisance to

-but the very priests thus accused every hody, and prejudicial in the extreme do not venture to say the charge is faise. to health ; for medical men have stated to Dr. Poynter himself confesses it. ' me, that they were afraid of the consequences to the neighbourhood ; as any Are you aware that a great number of person may perceive who turns into the children of the poor Roman Catholics Calmel Buildings out of Orchard street. in London are entirely destitute of educaIn ti at part of the couu they are so closely rion, aud that they have fallen into vicious packed, that in twenty-three houses I think and bad habits, arising from their ignothere were very nearly seveu hundred peo rance ?- conceive there are a great numple: the who:e place is such a scene of ber. It is a fact we cannot deny. filth and wretchedness as cannot be conceived. Our comn:ittee have made various I children to read any part of the Pro

Dr. P. totally disapproves of illowing representations, but in vain, to the vestry listaut version of the Bible :---when of Virt-ie-bone parisli, to enter into me? sures to cleuse this misance. Besides

closely pressed, he equally disapproves those seven bonded people, there are up

uf allowing them to use any Catholic wards of a bunned pigs.

version of the Bible : bis sentiments are Do you consider that if the Catholic explicit. . priests consented to the deption of your

Could not laymeu give this religious inplaris, that the object of your iakou would struciiou?-Laymen might teach ihe chilbe priivipally accomplished ?- Very much üren to learn the letter and text of their assisted, and for ihis reason, I base been catecbisny, but we could not permit laywith them all, and have been with the Bishop, who is a very culightened good

med to explain the doctrine to the children.

I could not in any manner approve of mau as can be. Theu thit at present appears to be the ta vt version of the Scriptures.

any Catholic chiltiren reading the Proteschief obstacle - I think it is one great

Suppose the version is taken of those obstacle. I was extremely pleased witi one proposition that was successful; for liven in that case I should tbiuk it con

passages in which the two do not differ finding a great difficulty in satisfying tlie priests in the parish of Shadwell, I called 'rary to my duty, and the constant discia meeting of the Church of England, with pline of the Catholic Churchi, to permit it.

For what reason ?- The reason is, that some of the Catholics, some Methodists, the Catholic Church considers the sacred and Presbyterians and other Dissenters, Scriptures as a precious deposit, which was aud a plan of education was agreed upon originally committed by the Apostles to that was not entirely Lancasterian, iuas their immediate successors, and that the much as the particular chapters of the Catholic Church has always carefully preNew Testament pointed out by that system served it, as it were in its archives, and were omitted.

has never permitted the faithful to read any Are the priests sensible of and witnesses other edition or version which is not duly to this meiancholy state of the condition of sanctioned and authenticated by the authotheir poor?-Yes, certainly; but such is

rity of the Catholic Church; consequently their apprehension of their being lost to I should act contrary to the constant distheir flock, and to what they think eternal cipline of the Catholic Church, if I were happiness, that I have ofteu had my doubts whether they wish them to be removed

to approve of the Catholic children read

ing a from the state of ignorance in which they which emanates from a body of Chris

version of the sacred Scriptures, are placed.

tians not in communion with the CathoIt is not possible to pen a more bit-lic Church. Those are the priociples of ter libel on the Catholic priesthood, my answer. tban these words contain. It might be Suppose passages were taken, which are policy --- cruel poliry! in Julian the cxactly the same in the two versions, would Apostate, to prohibit Christiaus from the objection still occur?- If the passages

be taken from a version made by any body acquiring knowledge and learving, lest

of Christians not in communion with the the system of heathen idolatry should be Catholic Church, the objection would be expost:d :--- but, is Popery concurrent the same. with the endeavours of an apostate ?--- Although the words are the very same? If this charge be true, what can be -Yes; because by approving it I should

give a sanction to a version made by an an Protestants, and beg to add that such are thority which the Catholic Church in spi- the occupations of the Catholic Clergy on rituals does not acknowledge.

Sundays, in the public chapels, that on Is it a part of the Catholic discipline, those days they would not have leisure to that each copy of the Catholic version of the attend to the instruction of those children Scriptures partakes in some way of the according to their wants. sacred character ? Certainly.

And you could not allow children to be Suppose a selection were agreed to by instructed by the laymien in the ('atholic the Catholic prelatts, and that the books church in the articles of their faith-rerin which that selection was printed were tainly we could not, consistentiy with the different from the Scriptures, and were practice and discipline of our Church. mere coinion school books, do you consider On vecasion of establishing a school that the difficulty woulci

, be removeri ?-If at Shadwell, for Catholics as well as Proit contawed merely the texts of the sacred testants, Mr. Builer enquired of Dr. Scriptures, it appe:rs to me ile difficulty Poynter whether Catholies could conwould be the same.

In Englaod we generally pernit the scientiously avail themselves of this be. faithful to read the authorised Catho.ie ver.

nefit. The Di, answered him, that such siou in the vulgar tougue, which are al subjects were out of his sphere, as a way, accompanied with notes.

Layman.---His (Mr. B.'s) interlerence Do you apprehend auv darger is likely was irregular, to result iroill educating the forver orders What was your reply to the inquiry ?-without conmunicatus at the same time considering what the reading lessous were religions instructiou!--do consider that to be taken from the Protestant version of the educating the lower orilers without githe Scriptures, I answered Mr. Butler, ving thein any religious instruction, my be that he knew that I should act in direct rather dangerous than beneficial to thems; repugnance to the constant and universal I beg to obsiste that I considler the pre pracuice of the Catholic Church, were I servation or corrertion of the morals of the

to approve of the reding by Catholic lower orders is the principal object we cidren, in a public school, of a version should have in view in their education ; 1 of the sacred scriptures emanating from and I am persuaded this ene could never a hody not in comuuuiou with the Ca. be o tained without religionis instruction ; tholic Church. and on this subject, I express my firm Was Mr. Butler sufficiently acquainted conviction, that in order to preserve or cor with the principles of the Catholic Church rect the mora's of the lower orders, they to know, previous to any arrangement bemust not only be taught their duty to God ing made with the Protestant gentlemen at and to soiety, but the great motives of per- Sladwell, that his proposition in regard to forming their duty must be strongly en the introduction of the Protestant version forced, which caii only be done, in my of the New Testament into that school opinion, by the instructions and exhorta- could not be assented to by bis ecclesiastitions which they receive from their pas- cal superiors -- was persuaded that he and on this ground, I consider iht

was sufficiently acquainted with the prin. it is in vain to expect that the morals ciples of the Catholic Church in that reof the lower classes will be improved, un gard, and there fore in my auswer to him I less education comprises religious instruc- referred to his own conviction, by saying,

• You know that I should act in direct reNevertheless, as a Roman Catholic bishop, ungnauce to the constant and universal could you consent to any attempt to better practice of the Catholic Churcb," &c. their moral condition by the instruction of li may aild, that I conceived that the ques. Protestants, or inust you not, consistently lion proposed me by Mr. Butier, whether with your duty as Vicar Apostolic, refuse Curbules could conscientiously seud their your assent to any attempts of the kind chi dren to the school? W:8 a question made by Protestants - As a Catholic which should rather have been proposed bishop, I do not jurige that their morals to me by the clergy who direct the concould be imploved but by religious instruc- sciences of the people within their district, tion, and I could not consent for them to and therefore I did not think it my duty, nor receive it from Protestants.

prudent, to give a direct answer to Mr. If children were allowed to attend their Butler on that question. own ecclesiastical instructors, in addition to such education in schools, you still think

And yet, Mr. Butler humbly thought, it would be objectionable if given by Pro- that what had been tolerated in France, testants ? - otject to the religious or mo- might be endured in England. He gives ral instruction of the children given by the following answer.



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How hasit bappened in France that they | minds and affe«tions of the children, and have had ibe New Testatament in the vui. to make religion and their duty, as far as it gar tongue?--Iu point of fact, there has can be, pleasing to them; and to bring not, for the last century, been in France down to their understandings all the main (as I have informed myself from good an- principles and duties of the Christian relithority) any objection to readiný the Oldgion, according to the principles of the or N-w Testament in the French tongue, Church o: England. Of course the degree or without notes, by any age or any des in which this instructiou is understood, decription of people.

pends upon the child. . Surtly, the accusation is proved, that

1 never knew any poor family become charges the Catholic priests with pre-Lord's day; and I never knew a poor fa

yery vicious or miserable who observed the venting the hettering the condition of mils happy, contented or virtuous, that their poor. The poor of their flock i..- did not observe it. treat-the better informed solicit Do you think any dauger is to be appremore liberal disdain the shackles-yet bended by giving children knowledge, still th- priests continue to vivet them wiilout communicating religious instrucon their people. O for some monk, for tioniertainly th re is a danger; because some cardinal, for some pope, whose

you give theni information and a greater energetic mind should burst these bonds, power, without at the same time a prinand no longer suffer the prevalence of iple to direct that power. But when you

teach them to read, and at the same time such atrocious abuşe! They take away implant the main principles of Christianity, the key of knowledge, says a sacred and an attachment to tlie Church of Eng. writer, and those wbo were entering in land, and to the worship of God on a Sunth-y binder: d.

day, you not only give them knowledge, from this ton painful scene, we turn but the principles to use it aright; you with pleasure to the enlightened senti kerp them from pride and self-elevation, ments of a divine branded as a heretic, and from that abuse of kuowledge, in by the true church; and deservedly reading improper books, to which they

might possibly be tempted. Besides, in too, or we are mistaken :---The Rev.

our si hoo's we give the children books on Daniel Wilson, minister of St. John's

which 10 employ their knowledge; and, Chapel, Bediorel Row.

above all, we endeavour from the beThis gentleman describes the almost ginning to make them understand that incalculable ineasure of good resulting we give them knowledge on purpose to from a Sunday School---" because all evable them to know their duty betier, and our instruction is founded on the specific serve God better in this world, and be priuciples of Christianity, the fear o prepared for heaven, and His favour in

another world. God, and the revelauion of his will in

As a clergyman, you see no impropriety his word;"'---and much of this is con

in respectable laymer visiting the poor municatrd by lay teachers.

mpion that plau ?-l rejoice to have their Of what description of character, and aid; it requires of course judgment in the what class of society, are the teachers who selection of your visitor's, as it does in volunteer their services ? - They are per every other thing of the same nature; but sons who regularly occupy seats in the it is a clergymau in fact multiplying hin. chapel, and live in the neighbourhood; self into twenty or thirty persons, who go the wives and sous and daughters of per about to do for him what he cannot do him. sous evgaged in trade, or in the profession self. of the law; most of them very respectable Do you consider that the parents of the people.

children are considerably improving, by Do those voluntary teachers endeavour associating with their children who attend to give religious instruction to the children, your school? There can be no doubt of as well as yourself? - They chiefly do this, it, in the several respects which I menmy own attendance being of course very tioned in an answer to a former question ; limited ; their objects is ju hearing them for instance, bringing them to attend divine the lessons they have set them on the pre-worship then selves is an extremely imceding Sunday, to explain then, and give portant benefit; another instance, is the them religious instruction.

correcting in them the habit of profane You apprehend they are capable of swearing, and of a variety of other vices, bringing down religious truths to the un. which those children are taught on a Sab. derstanding of the children ?-Quite so; bath nioruing to abbor, as violating the their object is particularly to interest the commands of God.

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