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be fools, their adherence to party will those boroughs, the proprietors of which not make them wise : if they be knaves, sell them, as a marketable commodity; never yet was party the cure for kna we abandon their owners to all the Yery.

vile epithets in Mr. Oldfield's vocabulary; The chief object of censure by Mr. 0. they shall find no protection from us. is the enormous influence of the crown ; ders; but let him be impartial, and

On these let himn dart his fiercest thunand this, possibly, may he judged on by a circumstance, to which the writer strike the offender, whatever be his bus given no prominent situation. What colours. Neither shall we affect to deny, Ever be the complexion of the ministry, that the population is spread in a manwhether Whig or Tory, reputed parti- ner which departs too widely from the zans of liberiy, or of despotism, every tion contribute most considerably to the

representation. As masses of populaministry finds itself obliged to have re- National Treasury, so they ought, by course to this infinence, If it be so

their nefarious as some affirm, how happens

agents, to watch over the expendiit, that popular ministries, supported

ture of their

property; for, in our opiby the voice of the people, understood nion, as in that of our antient ancesto be favourites of the nation, &c. &c. tors, taxation and representation vught cannot do without this wickid influ

to be inseparable. ence ?--Why do not they resign it? When our ancestors had no other proThey even go so far as to say, they perty than land and arms, the Agriculfind it hardly enough; barely enough: iural and the Military interests were rea lone, it is a mere feather in the ba- presented : when Christianity was estalance.

blished, the interests of the Church was

added in the national Council. But, the influence of the peerage is complained of, because it seats a num We at this day, have inpumerable ber of presumptive heirs among the re- other interests—the Manufacturing inpresentatives of the people. Yet none terest,—the Commercial interest,--the can point out a better school, in which Shipping interest,—the East India interto initiate into public life, young est,--the West India interest, the Com men, peers expectant, hereafter to be lonial,--the Bank, &c. &c. The House come permanent legislators. Here they of Commons, to be a genuine represenlearn, that rank is no security for re tation of the nation, should be an epitome

spe ct, or respectability: that ihe exer- of all these: but, if population alone ition of talents alone, affords claim to were the basis of representation, how

distinction: that if they desire honours, could these interests be represented ? they must earn them; a public senate, which of them would seat a single mem

like death, levels all gradations. Here, ber? Yet taxation bears beavily on these, e too, they witness the unrestrained dis- and if representation beinseparable from

position of their countrymen, and learn taxation, these have a right to be reprei to know the people over whom they are sented. i hereafter to preside. Here tbey form Let this be well weighed: at present, connections, which connections carried

our Manufacturers, our Merchants, the into the Upper House, amply compen- | Directors of our great public Companies, sate a fterwards, for any influence ex- do form part of the Parliament, and they erted over them by their fathers, while do from time to time, furnish that inforthey were members of the Lower House. mation to Parliament, which only such

In short, this very defect, if it be persons, habitnally intimate with these one, Proves a connecting link, hy which institutions, can furnish. Would it be the te so Houses exert a mutual influence wise and politic to expel all these ? And,

ch other, to their infinite advan- for what places are they usually returna tage, and the House of Commons may ed? For what places have the men who be said, in a manner, to have its


afterwards became our most famous sentatives in the House of Lords. As to Statesmen, made their entrie in the House

of Commons ? Who first seated William Vol. IV. No. 24. Lit. Pan. N. S. Sept. 1,

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How has it happened in France that they minds and affertions of the children, and have bad ibe New Testatament in the vui. to make religion and their duty, as far as it gar tongue? ---1.1 point of fact, there has can be, pleasing to them ; and to bring not, for the last century, been in France down to their understandings all the main (as I have informed myself from good an- principles and duties of the Christian relithority) any objection to reading the Old vion, according to the principles of the or N-w Testament in the French tongue, Church o England. Of course the degree or without notes, by any age or any des in which this instruction is understood, decription of people.

pends upon the child. Surely, the arcusation is proved, that

1 wever knew any poor family become

yery vicious or miserable who observed the charges the Catholic priests with pre-Lord's day; and I never knew a poor fa. venting the bettering the condition of mily happy, contented or virtuous, that their poor. The pour of their fuck is- did not observe it. treal--the better informed solicial Do you think any danger is to be appremore liberal disdain the shackles-yet bended by giving children knowledge, still th- priests continue to vivet them without communicating religious instrucon their people. O for some monk, for tion?--?ertaiuly th're is a danger; because some cardinal, for some pope, whose

lou give them information and a greater energetic mind should burst these bonds, Power, without at the same time a prinand no longer sutter the prevalence of teach them to read, and at the same time

ciple to direct that power. But when you such atrocious abuse! They take away implant the main principles of Christianity, the key of knowledge, says a sacred and an attachment to Ilie Church of Eng. writer, and those wbo were entering in land, aud to the worship of God on a Subthy binder d.

day, you not only give them knowledge, from this ton painful scene, we turn but the principles to use it aright; you with pleasure to the enlightened seiitikerp them from pride and self-elevation, ments of a divine branded as a heretic, and from that abuse of knowledge, in by the TRUe church; and deservedly

reading improper books, to which they

might possibly be tempted. Besides, in too, or we are mistaken :---The Rev.

our si hoo's we give the abildren books on Daniel Wilson, minister of St. John's which to employ their knowledge; and, Chapel, Bedford Row.

above all, we endeavour from the beThis gentleman describes the almost ginning to make them understand that incalculable measure of good resulting we give then knowledge on purpose to from a Sunday School-.-" because all euable them to know their duty betier, and our instruction is founded on the specific serve God better in this world, and be priuciples of Christianity, the fear of prepared for heaven, and His favour in God, and the revelation of his will in

another world.

As a clergyman, you see no impropriety his word;"'---and inuch of this is con

in respectable laymer visiting the poor municated by lay teachers.

upon that play?-l rejoice to have their Of what description of character, and id; it requires of course judgment in the what class of society, are the teachers who selection of your visitors, as it does in volunteer their services ? -They are per every other thing of the same nature; but sons who regularly occupy seats in the it is a clergymau in fact multiplying bin. chapel, and live in the neighbourhood; self into twenty or thirty persons, who go the wives and sous and daughters of per. about to do for him what he cannot do himsous engaged in trade, or in the profession self. of the law; most of them very respectable Do you cousider that the parents of the people.

children are considerably improving, by Do those voluntary teachers endeavour associating with their childreu wbo attend to give religious instruction to the children, Tour school? There can be no doubt of as well as yourself?_They chiefly do this, it, in the several respects which I menmy own attendance being of course very tioned in an answer to a former question; Jimited ; their objects is iu bearing them for instance, bringing them to attend divine the lessons they have set them on the pre-worship then selves is an extremely im. ceding Sunday, to explain theni, and give portant benefit; another instance, is the them religious instruction.

correcting in them the habit of profane You appreherd they are capable of swearing, and of a variety of other vices, bringing dowo religious truths to the un which those children are taught on a Sabderstanding of the children ?-Quite so; bath nioruing to abhor, as violating the their object is particularly to interest the commands of God.

Do you not think that the educating of cular regard for them, in small numbers. the poor, and their acquirement of know. There also the observance of the Sabbath, ledge, will tend much to lessen the poor and the progress of the chuldren in relia rates of parishes ?-1 should think very gin, are more watched over, than in much; because it tends directiy to lessen any great general scliools can be the case. those vices which throw the poor upou our

So that if National se too's should spread parishes, and creates that proper spirit of over the whole Metropolis. I still think independence and desire to do for 'then they would not 'supesede Sunday school selves which directiy leads to exertion. It instruction. As to a plan of were megives them also the feeling that they are

chanical iustruction, without the great neu, aud reasouable beings; it raises the principles of Christianity being alső ig. above the mere animal, and gives them a

culcated, I cannvi Lut view it as preg. desire to appear creditable in their neigli want with very dangerous consequences to bourhood and connections ; it qualities the pubolje. children for filling up stations which they

Do you not think that the continuance otherwise could not bil; and it particulariš or the Loucasie 110 piau preserves forms that habit of industry and of regu. competitiou ?-1 should think so. And jar employment which bars out many of yet it is an awkward thing to say s), when those vices wbich interrupt the happines. I approve of the one so 100 bolo e than of the poor, and reduce them to abject of the other; and yet I must 100k, cousidependence.

ering what human nature is, and how Does it fall within your knowledge that things generaily go on, it must be the case there is a great want of accommodation that the continuance of the Lancasterian for the poor in places of worship in the schools is pecessary to preserve the NaEstablishment? Vost deplorable! In the tional ones in their full vigour. parish where I reside there are about 30,000

And you think that competition is bene. inhabitants, and there are ouly, so far as I feiaj to both systems, iu pronroting acremember, four places of worship in the t.vity aud industry _Yes, I should think Established Church, viz. the mother-church it is. of St. Andrew's Holborn, the church or Is it said, “ the clergy of the Church St. George the Martyr, and two chapels. of Eogland have the countenance and I do not suppose these four places would

Be it so: what hold above 6,000 or 7,000 persons altoge support of the state.” ther, leaving 24,000 without the possibilit: countenance, what support, other than of attending divine worship in the Chureii general liberty, which nobody withholds of England in our parish.

from the Catholics, have other dissen. Have you formed any opinion of the ters? How do they manage? What is comparative merits of the Lancasterian and their character?

Mr. Jaines Millar the National system of education ?-I shou dates it in these words : say, that ceriainly I conceive the benetiis What objection bave the Disseuters to of knowledge to the lower orders to be so send t eir children to the schools upon the incalculably valuable, that I would risk National plau, supposing they were not any thing as to the mode of communicating waged to attend cburcb on a Sunday, or it. in order that they might receive that to learn the catechisın. I believe alnjost benefit. At the same time I think it o: ail the Disseviers that I know any thing of, high importance to inspire the great mas: provide for be education of their own of your population already members of the chiuren; they must be very poor indeed Church of Eugland, with a fixed and en if thev do riot. lightened regard to their own religious es Are you i Dissenter yourseli?-I am. tablishment; and I consider further, the Our principal object is rather for others particolar principles of religion upon which to be educated; we wish Cailo ius, and our church is founded, to be su essentia: others, completely to get the benefit of in. to that religion, that I regard the National struction. system, when it can be obtained, as bun. Do you mean that all Protestant Dissening incomparable advantages over the Briters have the means of education for their tish and Foreign system. I am of opiuiou children, of all classes? I know ut nove also, that the present system of Suudiy of them that do not get their chiidren 10schoois, and especially schools for religious stiu 'ted, of the lowest order of all that I instruction on Sundays, is necessary where kuow. they cau be had, because there you have Are you not alluding to some particular your children addressed individually and class ?-No, I speak generally. specifically, by persons who have a parti Do you mean that all over London the



Dissenters of the lowest classes have the sert, than for an Irishman, in the me. means of education ?--I should think, un tropolis of the British em pire, under the less they were very poor iudeed, generally controul of his Priests!

What effects have you observed result. Does it not follow, that if Dissentersing from education upon the savage nations have the means of education, every person in Southern Africa - I should first state, has the means of education ?-I mean the there are part of three nations who are caDisseviers in general; I speak of the per pable of reading—the Flottentots, the Gri sons who are careful in providing means of

quas, and the Namacquas; a cousiderable education for their children.

number of those pations have been taught Do you allude to the poorer classes of by the missionaries to read, and, from the Dissenters ? - There are none so very poor statement of those missionaries when I was that they could not do something if they present with them, they colisidered their chose. Do you mean that Dissenters have better mote civilization.

reading as particularly conducible to promeans of education for the poor, than

I got twelve of the Hottentots who acmembers of the Church ?-Not so much companied me in the mterior of Africa, that: but, I think they make greater exer

on our return to Cape Town, fully instruct. tious; I do not think they have bettered in the British sistem of education, on

purpose that they might couleuit, upon If this be true, what prevents the That plan, a school at Brihe sdorp, which Catholic from doing the same? How is about 550 miles from the Cape. long shall the difference continue to the

About four months ago, I respised a let. disadvantage of the sons of St. Peter ?

ter respeting that school, stating that upThe Irish, for instance, do not want

wirits of sindy lottentots, who ten months

tore knew not their letters, could read talent: all the world does them that to Dutch Testenient as weil as the misjustice. Accident has given a spor to sionaries. that talent: accident of another kind You found the Hottentots as quick in may, and, under Providence, will, give receiving their education, as the people in a scupe to it; and future historians will England ?- Nearly so; it brings then into have to congratulate the sister island on

a new world to be able to huow what a the return of learning, respectability, / book says, it is completely a new world. and distinction, to the natives of Erin. Il may mention here, that I have found Says Mr. Campbell , knowa to the pub-pothing so difficult as to convey to the

coueption of a savage how a book spake. lic by his “ Travels in Africa,”

I attempted with the King of Lattakoo, to One circumstance that led the Catholics make him understand it, but he and his in Ireland in a certain district, I think it principal men all shook their heads, and was in the vicinity of Belfast, to wish to said it was impossible to understaud it; obtain reading for part of their family, was I took a journal that lay before me, in the issuing the one-shilling, the two-shil- which I had inserted, from the lips of his ling, aud five-sbilling notes; there were uncle, the names of his forefathers, who instances of men going with their cow to had been kings before him (the goverumarket, and bringing home a five-shilling ment is hereditary;) this I read to the note iustead of a five-pound one; in con- king and his chiif men, on which they persequence of this, they resolved that at least ceived that I had fornierly stated the truth, one of their children should be able to but had no idea how the book gave me read, to accompany them to market, to dis that informatiou; the King inquired if it tinguish notes ; the priests could never would be possible for them and their successfully oppose that measure ; and that children, by the instructions of a white was the commencement in Ireland of a man, to understaud what books * said desire among the lower orders of Catholics (there is no other way of conveying readto read.

ing, they can form no idea of what reading Certainly, the Irish are not inferior is, it is only speaking ;) he and his people to the Horientits iu respect to talent; seemed highly gratified when I stated, that but, they are in respect to the means of in the course of a few moons after the

arrival of a teacher, they should be able cultivating that talent. To say all in one

to understaud reading as well as mysell

. word, there is a better chance for a wild The missionaries have not yet artired Hottentot, a Kaffer, or a Bish-man, that there, so that I can give no idea of the he should acquire instruction in his de


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75 15

528 19 Berks

7 3 1,168 11 7 353 1

1,782 19 10 Bucks

377 4 6

6 10
171 17 21

1,483 8 61 Cambridge



6 10 120 12 5 1,111 3 2 Chester

213 12

293 13 4 224 18 7 632 3 11 Cornwall

179 8 2
197 13 10


419 7 63 Cumberland

23 17 6

117 17 4 Derby.

•1,111 16 8

117 8 7 1,324 3 Devon

315 10 63

1,140 13 10 260 1 8 1,716 6 104 Dorset

146 13 6
1,529 5 1

140 5

1,816 3 7 Durbam 141

13 4

226 19 Essex

230 10
1,380) 12 81 291

4 11

19,02 Gloucester

428 13
1,525 4 5 310 14

2,264 11 93 Hereford

53 9
97 345 16 4

84 3 4

483 5 Hertford

203 9
821 13 8
104 2

1,129 4 Huntiugdon

217 6
248 9

22 7 9

487 17 Kent 622 2 1,203

978 4 2,803 6 Lancaster 695 4 11 2,272 15 il


1 9 3,171 1 91 Leicester.

275 10 2 1,214 16 31 435 15 6 1.926 1 113 Lincoln

101 8
1,817 14 11

279 5 2,198 3 81 Middlesex 1,480 5 4 2,692 7 6 823 18

4,996 11 Monmouth

121 2

1 16

671 18 Norfolk 123 17 10 729 13 31 278

1,131 11 1 Northampton 183 4 6 1,757 8115 295 I

2,235 15 11 Northumberland

71 10
173 8


289 18 Nottingham

93 14
374 13


5:26 17 Oxford 127 11 - 361 11

175 15

664 14 14 Rutland

4 18 6

54 18 Salop

3 4
654 11 4


921 14 Somerset. 420 17 U 1,296 17

310 14 4 2,928 9 3 Southampton

931 2 8
717 12 10 459 18

2,108 13 Stafford 149 6 1,323 19 5

148 12 4 1,621 12 Suffolk 89 6 4 1,614

212 13 6 1,916 Surrey

1,413 13 2

154 15 1 2,444 14 3 Sussex.

410 19 6

3 5
260 10

1,467 12 11 Warwick

325 15 10 1,411 13 11 663 19 10 2,404 Westmoreland

12 17 2
117 17

137 14 9 Wilts ..

534 9

185 15

1.074 8 Worcester 22 12 64 2,798 14 1

39 10 8 3,060 17 32 York, East Riding 236 18 7 494 19 2

148 2 4


11 N. Riding

164 18 1

7 5

364 15 2 1,888 8
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695 2 3 3,287 7 5

6:20 15 7 4,603 5 31 Total England....£ 12,415 17 42,638 13 31 / 9,601 1111 | 64,655 12


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42 Brecon

85 6


131 6 8 Cardigan

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28 15

Carn rvon
22 5

2 13 4

24 18 Denbigh

57 3
78 79

135 10 9 Flint

67 6
57 14

166 Glamorgan

7 10
141 12 6

174 2 6 Merioneih

28 16

27 8

71 2 8 Montgomery

22 2

43 8

76 15 2 Peinbroke

87 4

57 2

156 Radnor

154 2

172 Total Wales ...... 468 8 2

178 8

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