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The Marquis of Buckingham of Commons relative to this subspoke warmly against the treaty; ject were so similar to those in the on the ground both of its disho- House of Lords, and the argunesty, and its impolicy. At a ments used on each side followed time, he said, when the whole so nearly the same train, that a north of Europe might have been general notice of them is all that united against the common ene. our view of parliamentary history my, Denmark, while engaged in can require. testifying her sincere desire to re. The debate in that House com establish the relations of peace and menced on June 18th, when lord amity with this country, was told, Castlereagh moved, 1st, That the in language that could not be House should resolve itself into a mistaken, that she had no alterna- committee of supply; and, 2ndly, tive but to be hostile to us, and That the treaty with Sweden, prethus was forced into the ranks of sented to the House by command
of his royal highness the Prince Earl Grey took the same ground Regent, be referred to the said in condemning the treaty, and committee. made some pointed remarks on Mr. Ponsonby then rose, and the conduct of Sweden, which said, that on the present occasion country, he contended, was more he conceived that the most convelikely in future to be, as she had nient method of raising the debate formerly been, a friend to France on the merits of the Swedish treaty than to England. He concluded would be, to proceed with the diswith blaming ministers for not cussion prior to the Speaker's leavhaving in the spring made some ing the chair ; and he intimated attempts at negociation with the his intention of moving an address ruler of France.
to the Prince Regent on the subEarl Bathurst spoke in defence ject. He then observed, that he of the treaty
believed it was the first instance The Earl of Liverpool, in an- in which a treaty, containing the swer to Lord Grey's assertion that, cession of a valuable possession of according to the wording of the the crown of Great Britain, had treaty, it was a guarantee in per been laid on the table of either petuity of both Norway and Gua- House of Parliament, the minister daloupe to the Swedish govern. of the crown in each House not ment, argued, on the contrary, having expressed a desire to take that it was only a virtual guaran- the sense of parliament upon it. tee, contingent upon the perform. After some remarks on this point, ance of certain stipulations on the the right hon. gentleman pro. part of Sweden.
ceeded to a discussion and censure A division then took place on of the treaty nearly on the same the original address, in which grounds with those taken by its the numbers were, contents, 78; opposers in the other House. He proxies, 62–140. Not-contents, concluded with moving an address 40;. proxies, 37–77. Majority to the Prince Regent of a similar in favour of the address, 63.
purpose with that of lord Hol. The proceedings in the House land.
· Lord Castlereagh,after some com- rantee. He also objected to the plaint of the unusual mode in which transfer of Gundaloupe during war, the right hon. gentleman had as a circumstance which might brought on the subject, which im throw an obstacle in the way of posed on him the task of attempt. peace. After a variety of remarks, ing that explanation of the cir. he concluded with censuring a part cumstances connected with the of the conduct of ministers, but said treaty, the detail of which he had that he could not think it right to expected to be called upon to give record that portion of the right hon. only in the committee, proceeded gentleman's amendment which reto an elaborate and particular vin- ferred to the conduct of our allies. dication of it, chiefly founded on Lord Castlereagh disclaimed any the arguments employed by lord idea of a guarantee as making a Liverpool in the other House, but part of the engagements of the more opened and expanded. He treaty. said he could not but feel that he Mr. Whitbread spoke warmly owed some explanation to the against the treaty. House on the subject of a treaty Mr. Canning moved an amendbeing concluded with any foreign ment, qualifying the address propower, and considerable advances posed by Mr. Ponsonby, made on that treaty, parliament A division first took place on Mr. being sitting, without making any Ponsonby's motion. For it, 115: communication to them respecting against it, 224. Majority for its it; but the House would be satis- rejection, 109. fied when he should have stated The House then divided on Mr. the cause.
He then gave some Canning's amendment. For it, 121 : account of the circumstances which against it, 225. Majority, 104. The had occasioned the delay in its ra- House then went into a committee. tification, and of those which after- On bringing up the report of the wards prevented its being laid be- committee, June 23rd, Mr. Bankes, fore parliament till this was actually who had not been present at the done. In speaking of the affair former debate, made a number of of Norway, he said that modifica observations on the treaty, which tions had been proposed by the he thought to be that of all others British government to Sweden, for which this country was to pay which had relaxed so far as to say, the most, and receive the least.
Though I feel the whole of Nor. He was replied to by lord Castleway necessary to my security, yet, reagh in a repetition of former ar. if the power of France be dimi- guments; and the resolution of the nished, I will be content with committee was agreed to without the bishoprick of Drontheim.” a division.
Mr. Canning censured that part of the treaty which related to the A debate, or rather conversaseparation of Norway from Den- tion, which took place in the mark, and thought that although House of Commons, respecting the word guarantee was not ex- Orange Lodges,may deserve notice, pressly mentioned, yet that in fact though followed by no particular our obligation amounted to a gua- measures, as affording an indica
tion of the temper of the times. a Marchman or Marksman, the On June 29th, Mr. Williams Wynn name of one further initiated in rose, pursuant to notice, to bring their secrets. He swears that he before the attention of the House “will never reveal either part or the formation of a society which parts of what is privately commuexisted in direct contradiction to nicated to him, until he shall be the law of the land. After refer- duly authorized so to do by the ring to the provisions of the act of proper authority of the Orange In1799, against secret political socie- stitution.” In this declaration no ties, he adverted to the original salvo was made for legal examinainstitution of the Orange Society tion in a court of justice. The in Ireland, concerning which, how- secretary also swears that “ he will ever, he did not choose to pro. not give any copy of the secret nounce; but now, for the first articles of the lodge, nor lend them time, he said, they were proposed out of the lodge;" an oath that to be established in this country, openly sets aside the authority of and nothing could be more mis- the law, and avows the existence chievous or ill-timed than such an of further regulations than those institution. Much of what he had communicated to the public. He intended to say was rendered un- next referred to the means pronecessary by a pamphlet which had vided for establishing these sociebeen distributed in the lobby of ties throughout the country. It the House, containing the rules appeared that Orange lodges met and regulations of the Orange So- regularly in London, Manchester, ciety. He quoted from it the fol- Birmingham, Liverpool, Norwich, lowing oath taken by the mem- Sunderland, Dover, Chelmsford, bers: " I, A. B., do solemnly and Newcastle-upon-Tyne, Sheffield, sincerely swear, of my own free Bury, Halifax, Exeter, Plymouth, will and accord, that I will, to the Chester, Cambridge, Coventry, utmost of my power, support and Oldham, and many of the smaller defend the present king George towns. The publisher of the the Third, his heirs and successors, pamphlet was to give information so long as he or they shall support respecting the days of meeting, the Protestant ascendancy, &c." the lodges, &c. to any OrangeWhat (observed the hon. gentle- man, or person desirous of becomman) could be thought of such an ing one. Provisions were made oath'! Conditional allegiance ! loy- for establishing district lodges; alty depending upon the mainte- and regiments being considered as nance of the Protestant ascend- districts, the masters of all regiancy! terms hitherto unknown in 'mental lodges were to make halfthis country. Might not every man yearly returns, of the number, who took it think himself dis- names, &c. of the members, toʻthe charged from his allegiance were secretary of the grand lodge; and the royal assent given to a bill for in these military lodges, in defiance the relief of the Irish Catholics! of all discipline, officers and priSuch would infallibly be its effect vates were to meet on terms of upon weak and vulgar minds. He equality. The expenses of the soproceeded to consider the oath of ciety were also provided for ; their organization was announced in the Bathurst). Were none but unpublic papers, especially in those wary persons concerned ? Was it known to be under the control of not rather wary and insidious to government'; names of high rank publish two sets of pamphlets, in had appeared uncontradicted one of which, designed for the among the members; and it be- more educated, the conditional oath came the imperious duty of the was omitted, whilst it was inserted House to check the evil in its in the other which was to be cirgrowth. After some further ob- culated among private soldiers, and servations on the dangerous nature the lower orders of society. Ought of such institutions, the hon. mem- not the House to inquire into this ber moved, “ That a committee dark conspiracy, calculated to sebe appointed to inquire into the ver the Protestants from their Caexistence of certain illegal societies tholic brethren? Great names had under the denomination of Orange. been mentioned as connected with men.”
these Orange clubs. The titles of Mr. Bathurst did not doubt that two of the individuals who held these persons had involved them- the first stations in the kingdom selves in a breach of the law, how (the prince of Wales and the duke ever involuntarily, and hoped that of York) had been profaned by the motion might be useful to being coupled with these disgrace. them. He did not, however, see ful meetings. He wished, and had any occasion for the interference expected, to have heard a disof parliament, and thought it claimer of any such patronage and would be best to pass to the or support afforded by them. ders of the day.
Mr. Canning was glad to obMr. Stuart Wortley strongly con- serve that, in the discussions which demned the principle of these so- the subject had created, no one cieties, and equally disapproved of had stood forth in defence of the others of a contrary tendency, who innocence of these institutions. It met and dined together, assuming had been said that in Ireland such exclusively the title of Friends of societies had been beneficial to the Civil and Religious Liberty. He state, and to the safety of part of also severely censured the proceed the community. He did not wish, ings of the Catholic committee, however, to 'introduce into this and the resolutions of the Catholic part of the empire those symbols, bishops.
watch-words, and whisperings, Mr. Whitbread could not see which conveyed the idea that there any connection which the present was need of some unheard-of de. question had with the dinner of vices to protect the constitution. the Friends of Civil and Religious He felt some indignation at the Liberty, in which there was no manner in which the subject had principle of exclusion, but the been pressed upon the House. It tickets were open to all who chose was like telling them that the goto apply for them. He did not vernment was untrue to its trust, think the subject ought to be dis- and that the care of the public missed in the manner proposed by safety devolved on the good sense the right hon. gentleman (Mr. of the nation, which they modestly assumed to be vested in them. address which he meant to move selves. Such proceedings would to the Prince Regent, with a view call for severity ; but he hoped that of putting his sentiments upon rethis society needed only to be no- cord. He first remarked upon the ticed to sink into oblivion; and he unprecedented amount of the vote wished therefore that the House of credit proposed, being the sum should separate without any di- of five millions, which he thought vision.
infinitely too great. He then alLord Castlereagh entirely con- luded to two different periods, that curred with the last speaker. It of the French emperor's being purwas but justice to the individuals' sued from Russia almost within his who composed the society in ques. ancient boundaries, and that of tion to say that they were not dis- the retreat of the allies beyond the affected to the state ; but the act Elbe, in which terms of negociaof 1799 stamped illegality upon all tion for peace appeared to him atsuch associations. They were al- tainable, but had been neglected. ways dangerous, but especially so He thought that the conduct of when extended to military bodies. the allies in their treaties for the
Mr. Wyun said, that in com- dismemberment of Denmark, and pliance with the general wish of their holding out no expectations the House, he would withdraw his of the restoration of Poland, provmotion ; but he hoped that his ma- ed that they had not at heart the jesty's ministers would be alive to real benefit of mankind, or a sinevery attempt to carry the plan of cere wish to establish peace on the these societies into execution. continent; and he hoped that the
cabinet of St. James's would co. On June 28th, the following operate in any future attempts to message was presented by the effect that desirable end. Not, Chancellor of the Exchequer to the however, having the confidence he House of Commons.
could wish in our councils, he “ The Prince Regent, in the meant to move a temperate adname and on the behalf of his Ma- dress on the subject when the vote jesty, considering that it may be of credit should be agreed to. of very great importance to pro- Lord Castlereagh thought it vide for such emergencies as may would be best on all accounts not arise, and relying on the expe. to enter into any details on the rienced zeal and affection of the points noticed by the last speaker, House of Commons, trusts that whose views concerning peace this House will enable him to take were rather peculiar, since he imasuch measures as may be necessary gined that negociation could alto disappoint or defeat any enter- ways be entered upon, and never prizes or designs of his enemies, was it attempted but he consiand as the exigency of affairs may dered his own government as the require.”
party placing impediments in its The report upon this message way. If the hon. member were being brought up on June 30th, not blind to what passed on the Mr. Whitbread rose to make a other side of the water, he would few observations previous to an have read in an official instrument