“ways be glad to advocate for one of the " geance, that no credit should be attached “highest. He should not go into the evi. " to it. The Commissioners had not given “ dence of the case, but merely remark, 's in the testimony of Edmeades and Mills " that it was wonderful that the Princess “ as respectable, and yet as respectable “had, under such a conspiracy, behaved " men as themselves. The House of Com" with so much moderation. He hoped" mons had refused justice in this case, on “ the City of London would do all they account of their own regulations, though ss could to support this good woman, by " they broke them at any time when they " supporting his motion.

He should now

“ found it convenient.' The Ministry, too, propose his motion.

s had offered to abandon the Princess, as " THE LORD MAYOR said, that be- 6. Mr. Canning bad stated in the House of “ fore the worthy Alderman concluded, he " Commons; and they had not denied it, * wished to set him right as to what he because they knew he was an old sinner "had stated concerning the summoning of " like themselves.

Her innocence was, " the Common Hall. Ile (the Lord Mayor) " however, so well established, that on the " had desired the worthy Alderman to call present occasion, when she had been de“ on him on Wednesday, to receive his " clared innocent, even Sir William Cur" determination.

“ tis cried “ Hear!''. Sir John Douglas " Mr. Alderman WOOD said, that he “ had come forward with a petition, know" had understood, that the Lord Mayor had ing it would never be granted, and a

desired him not to call on that day.- " letter had appeared under the name of "Cry of " No consequence.")-Mr. w. "Lord Moira, insinuating new charges “ concluded by moving, that a Loyal Ad- " against the Princess, which that Peer " dress be presented to the Princess of " ought to disavow, or to prove the asser" Wales, on the late disclosure of the " tions it contained. He (Mr. T.) was " wicked and cruel attempt against Her

“ convinced the Princess was free not only Royal Highness's character and life. -" from criminality, but from any levity. Cry of Read!)--The worthy Alderman "i and it was their duty to list up their " said, it would be more regular to read "hands against those who had conspired " the Address he should propose after the against her. The conduct of Charles the " motion was seconded.

" Second should have been imitated on this " The motion having been seconded, 66 occasion by the Prince Regent. Wlien

" MR. THOMPSON said, the Princess " the Ministers of that Monarch proposed " of Wales, alter having been denied jus" to divorce him from his wife, he said, " tice in the House of Commons, had come """ I do not like her, bul I will not suffer " as a last resort to the people, by whom, " her to be insulled." " he hoped, that in spite of the parasites of 6 MR. TADDY said, he should not

power, the nost decisive verdict of ac- lave come forward on this occasion, if quittal would be declared. They should " he had not been alluded to by the worsuppose' what their feelings would be if " thy mover. He allowed that the Princess

they had a daughter in the situation of " had been injured and neglected; but he " the Princess, separated from her hus- " did not conceive that she would wish to “ band, and surrounded by spies. But the come to the Common-hall to justify her “ Princess had no father, and had been character, which stood in so fair a light, " lately deprived of her mother; and he that she needed not such acquittal. He

hoped the City of London would supply did not think it the proper time, because " the place of both. He did not know " he looked forward to the conciliation of why the Mother-in Law of the Princess

66 all parties. The question was one of " had not been condoling with her. Fe. “ feeling, and they should take care not to si male malice must have been at work " disturb the existing tranquillity. " against her. He should not use the " SIR W. CURTIS said, that he was " words of Lord Ellenborough (for they " not affected by any illiberal allusion “ might, by marking the effect of ungo- 66 which had been made to him, as he met " vernable passion, avoid language, which 66 them with confidence that they agreed " was fit only for Noblemen); but let " with him. He agreed that the Princess " them look at the contradictory evidence " of Wales was wickedly and cruelly treat* affixed to the Report of 1806, and say “ed (applause), and that the witnesses “ what man of them would have affixed his 's were perjured. His wish was reconcili

name to it. The evidence of the Doug-“ ation, but the question was, what was “lasses began with such a principle of ven- “ the way to go about it? It was a dan

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gerous thing to interfere. One of the “ Was it too great an insult for the Livery - instances in which his life was in immi- “ of London, even high as its character “nent danger was from such an interfer. “ stood for wisdom, prudence, and respect.

He had taken part in a quarrel “ ability, to follow the judicious precedent s between a man and his wife, and it was " of the two houses of Parliament ?" " the greatest mercy in his life that he was * MR. STURCH, as an old Liveryman,

now able to stand on his legs (laughing). “ anxious to preserve the character of the “ He would recognize the innocence of the “ body to which he belonged, begged “ Princess in its fullest sense; but he 6 Gentlemen to reflect whether they would * thought the best way was to drop the “ not DEGRADE themselves by passing “ subject. He should move that they do " ihe vole suggested. He did not doubt now adjourn.

" that the worthy Alderman acted from a “SIR JAMES SHAW wished to state " sense of duty in bringing it forward, and “ to the Livery the reasons that induced him " he hoped that equal justice would be ." to second the amendment. He admitted, " done him for his motives in resisting it, 6 that viewing the evidence against the “ ( Loud disapprobation.) It was at least “ Princess of Wales with the eye of a ma- “ PREMATURE, since the question was

gistrate, it appeared to him to be from " NOT YET RIPE FOR DECISION,

beginning to end a tissue of perjury and " and much evidence, he was convinced, subornalion, and had it been given be- “ remained behind to shew the origin of this “ fore any Court of Record, the witnesses "malignant conspiracy. He highly ap“ might and ought to have been subjected " proved of the assembly of a Common " to a prosecution. It was clear, therefore, “ Hall to vote upon questions of parliamen. " to him, that the Princess had been com- tary reform, or peace and war, but of all “pletely vindicated, but the question for “ subjects the present was the most impro" the Livery to decide was, whether further“ per to be discussed here: why were the “public discussion of this painful subject " Livery to give its decision upon the ques.“ would tend to any favourable conclusion. “ tion whether Capt. Manby did or did not “ The House of Commons had determined "kiss the Princess of Wales ?—The marks " that it was impolitic, and the Livery of of disapprobation were now so vehement “ London would best shew its loyalty and " Thal Mr. Sturch was unable to proceed." “ wisdom by following the example. He “MR. WAITHMAN stepped forward to “ acknowledged that the disclosures recent- “ entreat the Hall to behave with imparti. ly made tended to lessen the respect of " ality. His excellent Friend, who in the " the people for the monarchy, as well as “ city of Westminster had so long laboured " for che family that filled the throne: he “ in the cause of the rights of the people

, “ wished that, at least, appearances had might be mistaken in his views, but he “ been preserved, but the vote proposed " was delivering the honest sentiments of a " would widen the unfortunate breach that " well-informed understanding, and they " existed.-/ Marks of disapprobalion). ought tu command respect.

MR. 66 MR. ALDERMAN ATKINS was of “ STURCH concluded without interruption, " the same opinion, and would not now “ by repeating THE DANGERS that were “ have taken any part in the discussion of “ to be feared from this injudicious pro“ this question, had it not been expected “ ceeding, and by impressing the necessity " from him in consequence of the speeches “ of at least waiting until ADDITIONAL " of his colleagues. He was one of those “ LIGHT was thrown upon

this mysterious " who had in vain attempted to sway the" and painful subject. “ judgment of the worthy Alderman who “ MR. WAITHMAN then addressed : " had persisted in this motion, because he “ the Hall, not because he could add any " thought (and he trusted he should not " thing new to what had already been urg “ stand alone in the opinion) that reconcili- "ed, but because his silence might be mis“ ation was not to be forced upon the illus- " interpreted.

He was likewise one of “ trious parties by the interference of the “ those who had endeavoured to dissuade “Livery. In this sentiment he trusted he“ the worthy Alderman from persevering in “ should persuade many to coincide (NO, “ his motion, not because he differed in the "no). All men of understanding and general principle (in which all agreed

judgment, he believed, would vole on his “ that the Princess of Wales had been most * side of the question, if, indeed, it were scandalously

ill-treated, but because he “ pressed to a vote, but he entreated Mr. « did not think that the mode now suggest

, “ Alderman Wood to withdraw his motion. " ed would accelerate redress and promote

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" reconciliation. Why should the Livery 1" ratory of the complete acquittal of the "interfere, when the whole nation was " Princess of Wales, which would obviate "uniled in one sentiment, that her. Royal" the most material objections. (No, no, Highness was as innocent as her accusers w.the Address). He was sorry that his

were guilly. He did not desire the well-weighed opinions were in opposition "Livery to submit to his opinions, if they to the general sentiment, so hastily adopt. " thought their own better, but all he "sed; but he hoped that the Livery would « desired was that his individual senti- " consider the necessity of preserving its

ments should be heard, because he was " character for purity and wisdom. He " convinced from his heart that the Meet-|" concluded by adverting to the shameful "ing was defeating its own purpose, (NO, suppression of the able defence of Mr. "no: loud clamours). Probably his opi- " Perceval, and by expressing his wish, "nion might be good for nothing, in com- “ that the thanks of the Hall should be “parison with that of many gentlemen who " given to Mr. Whitbread, for his able and "now expressed their disapprobation. At "manly conduct. " the same time that he disapproved of the “ MR. ALDERMAN ATKINS came " original motion, his objection to the “forward, but with difficulty obtained a "amendment of Sir W. Curtis was equally " partial hearing. He repelled, with great

strong, because if the Hall were dissolv." warmth, Mr. Waithman's accusation of Wed, and the question thereby incidentally " inconsistency, declaring that he had act" negatived, the proceeding would imply " ed conscientiously, and that he should " an undeserved censure on the Princess of " still dare to do his duty, and to avow it " Wales, (Hear, hear!). How then was “ in all places, and at all times. "the Livery to extricate itself from the di- “ MR. WADDINGTON called upon "lemma. To dissolve the Hall would be " every man to do his duty, except such as " a míost extraordinary and unwarrantable “ were in possession or expectation of the

step, especially when the Hon. Bart. had" loaves and fishes—to such the call would "himself confessed that the question affect“ be ineffectual. In Africa, Turkey, and " ed even the stability of the monarchy. “ India, women were treated with con" If the fact were so, it was the duty of the “ tempt-in England we were more sen“ city to interpose. The fact was so--the "sible of their value, and he hoped that

question did shake the throne itself; but the Livery would shew that they were “ the true point to be decided was, in what “ not less gallant than the rest of the male mode was the Livery to interfere ? Cer

tainly not in any way that would make “ MR. ALDERMAN WOOD shortly 66 the breach wider, when the object was replied, explaining, that he meant the reconciliation and harmony. He lament." Address to be presented by the whole "ed, if so much danger was apprehended “Livery at Kensington Palace, in the same "s from interference, that the illustrious" way as they had waited upon Sir F. Burpersons

concerned had not reflected upon dett, at the Tower. He refused to alter “ the greater danger of submitting such" his motion, to make it conformable to the " matters to public observation. The wor-wishes of those with whom he usually

thy Alderman (Atkins), who had cen- acted. • sured the interposition of the Livery at " MR. ROWCROFT endeavoured in “ all so strongly, should have been consist“ vain to address the impatient Livery_he " ent in his conduct, and have blamed with " could only utter one sentence, that the “ equal severity interference of another real sentiment of the corporation was ex

kind, by a Royal Duke, who had most pressed by the number of absentees. " unconstitutionally, intermeddled to de- in The question was then put upon the “ stroy the freedom of election in a certain " Amendment, that the Hall be dissolved, “ borough, (applause). How then did he which was negatived by a large majo“ dare to object to that interference, which "rity. " he had elsewhere approved ? He (Mr.

" The impatience of the Meeting was " W.) did not think that the present pro- “ now so much increased, that Mr. Taddy "ceeding would facilitale parliamentary and Mr. Waithman vainly attempted to reform; and as there existed no prece- " address them. The Address was loudly “dent of an Address, even to the Queen, called for, and it was accordingly read by “ he hoped that the worthy Alderman" the Crier; after which the question was " would be persuaded to alter his motion " put upon it, and it was carried with very

for an Address into a Resolution, decla. “ few opponents. It was also agreed that


“ it should be presented to the Princess of | who took up the cause of the Princess in the " Wales by the Lord Mayor, Aldermen, House of Commons, where only it could be

Sheriffs, and 100 of the Livery. taken up with effect. It was, in fact, this

“ MR. WAITHMAN then proposed a vote Gentleman's Resolutions, which brought “ of thanks to Mr. Whilbread; and Mr. out the Book, by forcing from the Ministers “ Thompson, to Sir Francis Burdell, both an open confession of the Princess's inno6 of which motions were carried unani- cence, which confession, as all the world “mously.”

knows, brought out the accusatory deposiI have been too long an observer of the tions through the channel of the Reverend workings of vanity, conceit, presumption, Baronet's news-paper.-Theresore, I say, and selfishness, to be astonished at what took that, though Mr. Whitbread and Sir Francis place upon this occasion; but, though I Burdett inerited the thanks of the Common have feli no astonishment, others have, and, Hall, they, upon this particular occasion, therefore, I shall enter into as full an exa- did not stand so prominently as Mr. Cochmination of this interesting debate as my rane Johnstone. But, the numerous unseen confined space will allow of. - The words wheels by which the press is moved must of the Address, which was proposed by be seen, before the reader can judge of the Mr. Wood, and which was carried with, I causes of partiality like that which I have am well assured, only TWO hands held here noticed. --Now to the debate.-Mr. up against it, have not been given in the ALDERMAN Woon, who is remarkable not Report of the Morning Chronicle, nor in less for his sound judgment than for his unany other newspaper that I have seen ; but, daunted courage and unaffected manners, the COURIER has published the substance of did perfectly right in stating at the outset, the Address, in these words: “ It stated, that the Hall was called at so short a notice. " that the sentiments of affection with It was due to himself, to the cause, and to " which the Livery of London bad contem- the City, to make that fact generally known; “ plated the arrival of the Princess in this and I must say, that the answer of the

country were in no degree diminished : Lord Mayor does not appear to me to have " that they were deeply impressed with re- been, by any means satisfactory. His

spect for every branch of the illustrious Lordship was, however, very exact in " house of Brunswick : that they viewed pointing out, that Mr. VANDERGOMBE had " with indignation and abhorrence, the foul expressed his wish to have his name with

conspiracy against her honour and her drawn from the Requisition; and this is " life; and were inspired with admiration worthy of notice only on account of the os at her moderation, frankness, and mag- reason which Mr. Vandercombe gave for “ nanimity, under her long persecution. It it, which was this: that he signed the resi concluded with an expression of confi- quisition at the moment when there was a " dence, that the Princess Charlotte, great ferment upon the subject of the Prin“ brought up under such a Mother, would cess's treatment, but that now, the ferment “ be a blessing to the country, and with a being over, he did not wish that any meet

prayer for the health, happiness, and ing should take place to address her. It “ prosperity of her Royal Highness. . might not have been easy to find out a good This, I take it for granted, was the sub- reason for the extraordinary step of Mr. stance of the Address, moved by Mr. Vandercombe ; but, a worse than this it Wood, and adopted by the Common Hall; must, I think, have puzzled an Old Bailey and, so taking it, I have no hesitation in Attorney to hatch.- - What! think it saying, that it expressed the feelings of right to call such a meeting during the time every impartial man in England. Before that men's minds were in a ferment, and I proceed to discuss the several objections, think it wrong to call it when men's minds which were unavailingly urged against this had had time to cool! Think it right to Address, I cannot help noticing an omission call a meeting amidst uproar, and wrong to in the Report of the Morning Chronicle; call one under the influence of reflection! namely, the vote of thanks lo Mr. Cochrane You will observe, reader, that Mr. VanJohnstone. Such a vote was certainly pass- dercombe retained his full conviction of the el, and it would be very curious to come innocence of the Princess, and of the wick. at the precise reason, why Mr. Perry, or edness that had been at work against her; his Reporter, thought it right and proper he retained this conviction, and all his obto take no notice of that particular vote;jection to addressing now was, that there especially when it is considered, that Mr. was no longer a ferment in men's minds C. Johnstone was really the first person, upon the subject :--I have not the ho

nour to know any thing of Mr. Vander- berty, who has not received marks of combe, but I must say, that I heartily wish friendship from Mr. Wood, who is, upon him joy of his reason for withdrawing his all such occasions, ready not only with his name. -It gave me great pleasure to see purse but with his personal exertions. Mr. Wood's motion seconded by such a When a man, so eminent for his exertions man as Mr. THOMPSON. It is that descrip- in the cause of public liberty, and withal lion of men who ought to come forward ; so frank, so unaffected, and so amiable in men who have no views, and who can have his manners, so free from all vanity, conno views other than those tending to the ceit, and ambitious views; when a man public welfare. Such men should not give like this had set his heart upon a measure, way to feelings of disgust or of listlessness. and when it was impossible that that meaThey would soon see babbling impertinence sure could be injurious to public liberty, slink away from their presence.- -That Mr. STURCH should, I think, have hesitatSir William Curtis, though he acknow- ed; I think he should have been


diffiledged the perfect innocence of the Prin- cult to persuade to come, for the first time, cess ; that Sir JAMES SHAW, though, speak out of Westminster to the Common Hall, ing as a magistrate, he viewed the evidence for the express purpose of opposing that against the Princess, “ from beginning to measure.---Let us, however, give a pa«end as a tissue of perjurij and suborna- tient ear to the reasons upon which this option;" that Mr. Alderman Atkins, position was built.--He begged the Hall though he saw the matter in nearly the same to reflect, whether they would not degrade light ; that these Gentlemen, who are well themselves by passing the Address. known to be closely attached to the Minis- You have seen the substance of the Address, ters; that these Gentlemen should wish to reader; and, do you see any thing in it that stile the question; that they should wish to is calculated to degrade those by whom it draw a veil over the proceedings; that they was passed? I will say nothing upon the should call for å dissolution of the Hall, unmeasured severity of this expression as and so get rid of the Address by a side applying directly to the mover of the Adwind; that they should tell the Citizens of dress, who, if the Address was degrading London that they ought to look up to the to those who passed it, must already have Honourable House for an example; that degraded him who moved it; but, I must they should tell the people to follow the say here, that, when Mr. Waithman, was footsteps of that paragon of wisdom and afterwards reminding the Hall of Mr. purity; that these Gentlemen should thus Sturch's exertions in the cause of liberty act and speak could be matter of wonder to in Westminster, he could hardly have fornobody; but, there may be, and there gotten, that Mr. Wood did not merit an must have been, many persons to wonder attack like this, and especially that it was at the conduct of Messrs. STURCH and not worth while to quit the field of WestWAITHMAN. However, I shall not act minster for, apparently, the sole purpose the foul part of an insinualor. I will nei- of making this attack.---But, Mr. STURCH'S ther insinuate nor assert any thing at all re- reasons: we have not yet seen any of them, specting the molives of these Gentlemen; --He said, that the motion was premabut, I will freely examine the grounds upon ture ; that the question was not ripe for which they thought proper to overthrow discussion. -Not ripe! When, then, I the motion of Mr. Alderman Wood.- pray, is it to be ripe? The whole of the Mr. Sturch set oui by observing, that, transactions are before the public; the evithough an old Liveryman, he had never dence on both sides is in print; explanabefore troubled them with a speech. And, tions of the conduct of particular parties he will, I am sure, think it not unnatural, have been given in parliament and elsethat I should express my regret and my where; in short, every fact and every cirsurprise, that he should have deviated cumstance belonging to the matter have from his long-continued course, upon this found their way into print; and, at the end particular occasion, when the motion to be of seven years of mysterious secrecy, opposed had, surely, nothing hostile to li- whole is out in broad day-light, so that noberty in it, and when the person making thing is now hidden, or can be hidden, that motion was well known to Mr. STURCH from any person in the kingdom. And yet to be one of the most ardent, most indefa- Mr. STURCH does not think the question tigable, and most liberal friends of public ripe for discussion. If it be not yet ripe, it freedom. There has, for years past, been will not be ripe till we are all rotten. no man who has suffered in the cause of li- Much evidence, he said, remained behind


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