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THE TRINITY: This seems an odd was accordingly done.- LORD Cassort of topic for a Political Register ; but," TLEPEACH said, he certainly did not see it belongs to politics as much as war does, any reason to object to the principle of it having become the subject of Acts of Par" the Bill. When the Bill was before the liament, and being now, if the news papers “ House, he would then be enabled to see tell us truth, about to become the subject “ if there was any thing in the mode of of a new Act.---This Act will, if pass- “ granting the relief liable to objection. ed, make a much greater change in the re

-The House went into a Committee, ligion of this country than has ever yet 16 when leave was moved for and oblained, been made. It strikes at the root of Chris. "lo bring in the Bill in question.". tianity itself. Now, mind, I say this as Now, as the reader will understand, if my deliberate opinion; and the reasons, on this Act pass, any person may, with impuwhich I found this opinion, I will state nity, openly talk, prate, or preach, that fully, when I have inserted the report of the Doctrine of the Trinity is a false Doce the proceedings in the House of Commons. I trine.- -What, then, is this Doctrine ?

- Mr. Wu. Smith said, he believed Our Church tells us, that, unless we be" no opposition would be made to the mo- lieve in it we must be damned; the belief " tion he was about to submit to the House, of it is, our Church says, absolutely neces " and he therefore would not take up two sary to salvation; and, to allow people "minutes of their attention. The Act of openly to say that it is a false doctrine, " King William, known by the name of what is this but to allow people to do their "the Toleration Act, denied to persons utmost to procure and ensure our damna" who disbelieved in the Trinity the bene- lion; and, pray, what did Mr. Paine, or " Gt of toleration. An Act of the 19th of Mr. Eaton, or any body else ever do, or "His present Majesty required only the ge- attempt to do, more than this? But, I

neral belief in the doctrines of Christi- am before my story. What is the Doctrine anity and the Scriplures; but it so hap- of the Trinity ?- -Why, it is this. That

pened, that though by the Act of the GOD, the Maker of the Universe; the "i9th it was not necessary to subscribe the Creator and Sustainer of all things ; did, "Articles of the Church of England, pro- through the instrumentality of the Holy

fessing the belief in the Trinity, the Acts Ghost, assuming the shape of a Dove, be" of the 9th and 10th of King William get upon the body of a woman, his son

were not repealed. By these Acts, per- Christ. That Christ, so begotten, was "sons who in writing or conversation deny GOD; and that the Holy Ghost was GOD; " the existence of any of the persons of the and yet, that there were not, and are not " Trinity, are disabled in law from liold-three Gods, but ouly one God. There "ing any office, civil, ecclesiastical, or are persons who deny this. They say, that

military, on conviction; and if a second they do not believe, that God the Father, 6 time convicted, they are disabled to sue God the Son, and God the Holy Ghost, are “or prosecute in any action or information, one God; they deny that the two latter are " or io be the guardian of any child, and Gods, and acknowledge only as God, God liuble to be imprisoned for three years, the Father.---Who is right and who " The only object of his Bill was to do wrong, I have not the presumption to say;

away these penalties. He said the libe- but, this I say, that both are not right; that " ral Act which was passed last year was one of the two is wrong; and, I further say, "highly creditable to the liberality of the that he who denies the divinity of Christ is “Ministers of this country, and the times no Christian ; whence it follows, that, in " in which we lived. The only question my clear opinion, the proposed Act, if "snow for consideration was, whether those passed, would be a sanction to the

open “persons dissenting from the Church of preaching against Christianity.---The di" England, should be still liable to the pe- vinity of Christ is the basis of Christianity. "nalties of the Acts of King William. He If he was not God; if he may be considers therefore moved for leave to bring in aed in any other light; if he may be re"Bill for granting farther Relief to the dif- garded as something less; where is the " ferent Persuasions of Christians in this boundary? Once let the people be told,

Country, who disbelieved the Doctrine of that he was a man, and what becomes of "the Trinity. --THE SPEAKER observed, the whole system? Take away the law, as " that the regular course was to move first, it now stands, and see to what lengths men " that the motion should be submitted to a will go. Every one will give his opinion « Committee of the whole House ; which (freely upon this point; the incarnation ;

the enunciation ; the whole thing will be are, it seems, quite willing to be bound to come a subject of free discussion, and then a belief of the Scriptures ; they believe, it will puzzle any one to devise the means they are content to be bound to believe, of criminating any man, who shall write that God came down, in the cool of the upon the Christian System. Remove this day, and walked in the Garden of Eden; great prop, and, in my opinion, down that he came down and talked to Moses in comes the fabric.—The morality of the a Cloud; that the Red Sea opened and Gospel is nothing in support of Christianily, formed a sort of walls while the Israelites which stands upon faith ; and, if you take passed over; that the Sun and Moon stood away the divinily of Christ, where is ground suill at the command of Joshua; that the for your faith? The moralily taught by walls of Jericho fell down at the sound of a Christ was taught long before his birth. trumpet ; that five loaves and a few small There was, as our Clergy show us every fishes filled thousands of hungry people : day, nothing new in the morality. It was all this, it seems, they are willing to believe the super-natural things that took place in as well as we Chureh people; and why, I Palestine that were new; it was the mira- should be glad to know, are they to be percles, the resurrection, &c., and, if you take mitted openly to preach against the belief away the divinity of Christ, what becomes of Christ being God? Why do they not of all these? To suppose, that God had a come, at once, and ask for leave to deny son, after the manner of men, is something the whole as well as a part? They cannot so monstrous, so low, so degrading, so ab- comprehend how Christ can be God, by surd, so ridiculous, that it cannot live for a whom he was begotten. Oh, oh! And moment, except in a mind brutified by ig- can they comprehend how the Devil came gorance. And yet, this you must believe, to take Christ up to the top of a high if you believe that God and his Son are lwo mountain, and to offer him all the kingdoms distinct persons, and in nowise united in of the world? Can they comprehend how essence. What, then, is your belief, Mr. all the animals got into one single ark? Smith, or, rather, the belief of those in Can they comprehend why Deborah and whose behalf the Bill is to pass into a law ? Barak sang the praises of Jael, who drove That Christ was not the Son of God? Is the nail through the head of Sisera, while this their belief? If it be, with what de- he was asleep? No: they pretend not to cency do they profess to believe the Scrip- comprehend these. They do, however, ture? With what decency do they call believe them as we Church people do ; any one, and by way of reproach too, a they do, like us, regard them as mystical; Deist?- You say, that the Act of the and, why, I again ask, cannot they accom19th of the present King, requires ONLY pany us through the whole of our faith? " the general belief in the Doctrines of Besides, what do they mean by being Christianity and the Scriptures? ONLY! forced to believe this, or that? They are Why, Sir, this Doctrine is the all-in-all. forced to believe nothing; they are only Without it there is no more in being a forbidden to tell any body that they do not Christian than there is in being a Pillite or believe so and so. That is all. If they will a Foxile, and, I should be very glad to see but hold their longues and their pens, they any one attempt to prove the contrary. may believe, or disbelieve just what they

-No, if this part is taken away, the please. “Tender Consciences," indeed! And whole fabric totters. An Act of Parlia- how are their consciences hurt, how are they inent will, in such case, allow people openly violated, by a law which forbids the telling to say, that the great Creed of our Church of folks that the Doctrine of the Trinity, is a falsehood. Our Church lays down a Doctrine some hundreds of years old, and one point of faith as indispensable in order taught by all our Bishops and Clergy, is - to obtain salvation; and the proposed Act false? They are not, as under some tywill permit any one to say, at the Church rannical governments, compelled to make door, that no man need believe any such open declarations that they do believe acthing, for that the assertion is false, and cording to the Church; they are only forthat one of the most venerable of the Fa- bidden to say that they do not believe acthers of the Church was a retailer of false- cording to the Church; they may keep sihoods.--- What, then, you will say, per- lence; that is their remedy; and I know haps, are people to believe what they can not why they should be suffered to express not believe? " Cannot believe," pray their opinions about Christ, any more than what does that mean? The people, in I may not be suffered to express mine about whose beliaif you bring forward the Bill, the Regent, or his Judges, or his Ministers. -Let them hold their tongues and their well as others, opposed to the intended pens, and their faith is absolutely without Aci. Our Church says, that this doctrine shackle! When Mr. Eaton was tried, is the basis of our faith; that to believe in the Attorney-General, Gibbs, called for the Trinity is absolutely necessary to our punishment upon the old man, because his salvation ; and, why, I ask, is a particular book was calculated to endanger the souls set of men to be allowed to endeavour of įhe people, by causing them to disbe- openly to prevent us from entertaining this lieve the doctrines of Christianity. Now, saving belief ?-_I am no Doctor. of the Doctrines of Christianity the princi- not understand Greek and Latin. But I pal one is, that Christ is God; that there understand how to count my fingers ; and is God the Father, God the Son, and God it requires little more to enable any one to the Holy Ghost; and that these are not discover, that, if one sect be allowed to three but one. This, our Church says, preach against one part of the Church faith, we must believe, or we cannot be saved. every other sect ought to be allowed to What, then, having Mr. Eaton's prosecu- preach against any part of that faith which tion and punishment in our eyes, are we to they may happen to dislike.--I dare think of a proposition for passing a law. to say, that an Unitarian Priest will tell me, permit people openly to preach, that this NO. He will, I'll engage for him, say, Doctrine is false ; ihat this faith, upon that people ought to be permitted to deny which the Church tells us our salvation ab- the Godhead of Christ, but that they solutely depends, has no truth in it; and ought not to be permitted to deny the authat we ought to believe no such thing ? thenticity of any Chapter in Genesis or

--- These are my reasons against the pro- Numbers. No : such latter denial does, posed Act. But, besides these, there are not, probably, suit him. That might others. If the Unitarians are to have an lead to consequences that he would not like. Act passed to authorize hem to preach | If those chapters were set aside, others against the Trinity, why should not the might, and, at last, away might go the Deists have an Act passed to authorize them whole ; there would then be no want of an to preach against Revelation aitogether. interpreter, and his priestship would be at If one Sect is to be indulged in denying an end. No, no: I am for no partial rewhat they do not believe, why not anoi her peals. I am for a general Act, permitting Sect in denying what they do not believe? every man to say or write what he pleases If I am told, that it is right to ease the upon the subject of religion, or, I wish Tender Conscience of the Uuitarian, I ask the whole thing to remain what it now is. why the Tender Conscience of the Deist is - wonder that the Clergy, so active as not to be considered ? I have no objection they are upou other occasions, where the to an Act of Parliament to allow men to interests of the Church are in question, say and to write whatsoever they please should be so silent on this occasion. They upon the subject of religion ; but, if such cry out that the Church is in danger, when an Act is not to be passed, I really can see a few Roman Catholics want only to share no reason for this favour to one particular in the good things under government; but, Sect. If this Sect be indulged in preach- here, where the very bowels of the Church ing against the Trinity, another may ask are aimed at, they say not a word! Is it, for permission to preach against the Resur- because they do not perceive that the Unirection, and so on, till, really, our laws tarians want to get at their temporalities? will have chipped the whole of the Scrip-. I do not know that they do ; but, I dare tures away and all the doctrines growing say they would have no objection to come out of them, or ingrafted upon them. An in for a small portion. Act to permit men to say and publish what they please upon the subject of religion MR. CREEVEY.

-The case of this genwould be much less hostile to the Church, tleman was argued, last week, in the than would be an Act giving permission as Court of King's Bench, upon a motion of to one particular doctrine; because in this Mr. Brougham for a new trial, upon the latter, the parliament scem to give up that ground of misdirection on the part of Judge doctrine to be demolished; whereas, if the Le Blanc, who presided at the trial at permission were general, it would seem to Lancaster.- I have inserted the proproceed merely from a wish to remove all ceedings below. They are of very great restraint as to men's faith. In short, I importance. The Court decided against do not see why this particular sect should him ; and, in my opinion, decided very be indulged; and I am, on that ground as fairly. The only thing that Mr. Cree

vey has to complain of, is, that he could i can help it. The dry matter is this: not set up the iruth in justification; but, shall the Catholics have a share of the seats in this respect, he is upon the same footing in parliament, and of the high offices in the as the rest of us. I was not allowed to State, in the army, and in the navy, or prove the truth of my publication ; nor is shall they not; or, in other words, shall any man who is prosecuted criminally. If they come into a full share, with the ProI were to detect a man in the act of theft, testants, of the public money.- -Twist real, vulgar, poor-man's theft, and were and turn the thing as you please ; talk about to state the fact in print, he might indict superstition, bigotry, liberty of consci. me for it; might prosecute me; and I must ence, or what you like ; but, at last, this be convicted; for, if there were a witness is the plain, dry question. And, I do not to the fact, I should not be allowed to pro- think that the Protestants, who are now in duce him to prove the truth of what I had the possession of these good things, will, said. Therefore, Mr. Creevey's case is if they can avoid it, permit these new and not singular. He has the same law for famishing candidates to come in and share hiin as we all have ; and, Mr. Brougham with them. If I thought that the Bill would have done much better to carsplain was likely to pass, I should use my best on this score ; to make a general complaint endeavours to prevent its passing; because against the law, than to stand upon any I think it is a Bill, calculated to make the particular privilege.

Catholic Clergy the tools of the government,

and to a much greater extent than the “ GERMAN Patriots.”—The sub- Church Clergy can be expected to be. scription, I see, goes on for these people; - The Abstract, which I here insert and a correspondent begs me to think better will shew, in a moment, that this is the of them. I do not think ill of the people case. This Bill enables Roman Caof Germany. There are no bad people na- 66 tholics to sit in either House of Parlia. turally. When they are bad, they are ment; and to hold all civil and military inade' bad by their governments. But, " offices, upon their taking and making a what. I do think, is, that there will be no “ certain Declaration and Oath, instead of population found in Germany disposed to the Oaths of Allegiance, Abjuration, and resist Buonaparté. This is what I think," Supremacy, and the Declarations against and I have heard no reasons in opposition “ Transubstantiation and the Iuvocation of to my opinion. If it be merely a war of “ Saints, required by the present laws, soldier against soldier, my firm persuasion“ except the offices of Lord High Chanis, that the French will triumph. How- “cellor, Lord Keeper or Lord Commisever, it is useless to deal in conjectures and 66 sioner of the Great Seal of Great Britain, opinions. The proof is at no great dis." or of Lord Lieutenant or Lord Deputy,

or Chief Governor or Governors of Ire

" land. Roman Catholics are also to conCATHOLIC QUESTION.----Upon this sub-“ tinue disqualified to hold or to present to ject a Bill is now before the House of Com-, any office, benefice, place or dignity, mons, the second reading of which stood " belonging to the Established Church, or for Tuesday last, when Sir JOHN Cox “ the Church of Scotland, or to any EccleHippisley moved to put off the matter by" siastical Court of Judicature, or to any referring to a Committee an inquiry into the " of the Universities of this realm, or to existing laws against the Catholics.- " the Colleges of Eton, Westminster, or This, I must confess, greatly astonished “ Winchester, or to any public School of me, who always regarded this gentleman “ Royal or Ecclesiastical foundation within as the great chainpion of the Catholic cause, 66 this realm, otherwise than as they are but who, it seems, has now discovered by the law, as now existing, qualibed them to be a very dangerous body; or, at " to hold, or presented to the same. least, to entertain notions very dangerous " No Roman Catholic shall present to any to the Church and State.- His motion 66 Protestant advowson; if any ecclesiastiwas lost by a great majority ; but, I do not “ cal patronage bę attached to any office to believe, that the Bill will, at this time, " which a Roman Catholic is appointed, become a law for all that. It is, as I " the patronage shall be executed by such said before, a question of temporal inte- " Protestant Privy Councillor as His Ma. rests; and, it is not likely, that those, “ jesty may appoint. Roman Catholic who are in possession of good things, will “Clergymen shall take au oath, purportadmit others to share witla them, if they " ing that they will not recomiend, sanc

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" tion, or concur in the appointment or " conspiracies and attempts whatever, that “ consecration of any Bishop, of whose loy." shall be made against his person, crown, ally they are noi avell informed. Per- " or dignity; and I will do my utınost en“sons discharging spiritual functions with-|“ deavour to disclose and make known to 6 out taking this oath, will be guilty of a1" His Majesty, his heirs, and successors, so misdemeanour. None but a natural. “ all treasons and traitorous couspiracies “ born subject; having been resident in the " which may be formed against him or. Si kingdom five years immediately previous" them; and I do faithfully promise to

to consecration, shall exercise the func- "maintain, support, and defend, to the * tions of Bishop. These are the heads utmost of my power, the succession la 6 to Mr. Grattan's Bill, to which Mr. " the Crown (which succession, by an “Canning has proposed several supple- " Act entitled, An Act for the further. " 'mentary clauses to the following pur- " limitation of the Crown, and the better.

port:- That every Roman Catholic Bi-" securing the rights and liberties of the "shop to be hereafter appointed shall ob-" subject,' is, and stands limited to the "tain a certificate from five English Ca." Princess Sophia, Electress and Du*tholic Peers, named in the bill, as to his chess Dowager of Ilanover, and the "loyalty; and any Bishop officiating with-" heirs of her body being Protestants); s'out this certificate, may be sent out of " hereby utterly renouncing and abjuring " the kingdom. That all bulls or briefs" any obedience or allegiance unto any " received from Rome, shall be immedi." other person claiming or pretending a . "ately communicated to Commissioners " right to the Crown of this Realin, Ida " appointed by the bill, namely, five Ca "declare, that I do not believe that the "tholic Peers, the Roman Catholic Bishop Pope of Rome, or any other foreign " of the London district, the Lord Chan-1" Prince, Prelate, State, or Potentate, hath, " cellor, and one of the Secretaries of State," or ought to have, any temporal or civil " being a Protestant, excepting such bulls" jurisdiction, power, superiority, or pre"'as relate to the spiritual concerns of indi- " eminence, directly or indirectly, within . ss viduals, which must be certified upon " this Realm: I do further declare, that it * oath to be purely of such a nature,- The " is not an article of my faith, and that I " penalty of not complying with that pro- " do renounce, rejeci, and abjure the opi. s vision, is, that they are liable to be sent “ nion, that Princes excommunicated by 6 out of the kingdom. The Commis- " the Pope or Council, or by the Pope and. $ sioners to be sworn to secrecy.- - There " Council, or by any authority of the Sec " is a similar provision for Ireland. -" of Rome, or by any authority whatso“ The Commissioners to certify for the loy "ever, may be deposed or murdered by ** alty of Bishops to be five Irish Catholic "their subjecís, or any person whatsoever. “ Peers. The Commissioners for the in- "I do swear thai I will defend, 10 the ute “ spection of bulls to be the same hive Peers," most of my power, the settlement and - the Roman Catholic Arch-bishops of " arrangement of property within this " Dublin and Armagh, the Lord Chan-" realm, as established by the laws. I do " cellor, and Secretary of State, or one of " swear that I do abjure, condemn, and " the Privy Council, being a Protestant." detest, as unchristian and inpious, tie

-In the event of the death or absence “ principle, that it is lawful to destroy or s from the kingdom of any of the five Ca." any ways injure any persou whatsoever, şi tholic Peers in either of the kingdoms, a 6 for or under the

pretence of such

person " substitte to be appointed by His Ma-“ being an Heretic. I do declare solemuly " jesty from among the remaining Catholic " before God, that I believe that no act, iu 6 Peers; or, if there should not be a suf- “ itsell unjust or immoral, can ever be “ ficient number of Catholic Peers, any justified or excused, by or under the pre“ Roman Catholic Gentleman, possessing "tence or colour that it was done, cither "a landed estate of £1,000 a year may be “ for the good of the Churcii, or is obedi“ appointed.---The following is the new “ence to any Ecclesiastical Porier wlusos oath :

-1, A.B. do hereby declare, “ ever. I do also declire, that ji is not an " that I'do profess the Roman Catholic " article of ihe Roman Catholic Faith, uci“ Religion : and I do sincerely promise "ther am I thereby required to belie. e or or and swear that I will be faithful arid bear " prosess, that the Pope is willible, or “true allegiance to His Majesty King" that I am bound to obey any order, ja its

George the Third, and him will defend, "" own nature immunalthough me Pupe of " to the utmost of my 'power against all any Ecclesiastical Power should issue ur

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