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later than my company or the ladies-for, what of frequent visiting on terms of great intimacy, Mr. Stikeman says, with respect to his being as I have said before, they cannot be contradictalone with me in an evening, can only mean, and ed at all. How inferences and unfavourable in. is only reconcilable with all the rest of the evi- terpretations are to be decidedly contradicted, I dence on this part of the case, by its being un- wish the Commissioners had been so good as to derstood to mean alone, in respect of other com- explain. I know of no possible way but by the pany, but not alone in the absence of my ladies. declarations of myself and Sir Sydney Smith.The deposition, indeed, of my servant, s. Ro- Yet, we being the supposed guilty parties, our berts, is thus far material upon that point, that denial, probably, will be thought of no great it exhibits Mr. Cole, not less than three years weight. As to my own, however, I tender it to ago, endeavouring to collect evidence upon these your Majesty, in the most solemn manner, and points to my prejudice. For your Majesty will if I knew what fact it was that I ought to confind that he says, “I recollect Mr. Cole once tradict, to clear my innocence, I would precisely “ asked me, I think three years ago, whether address myself to that faet, as I am contident my " there were any favourites in the family. I re conscience would enable me to do to any from “ member saying, that Captain Manby and Sir which a criminal or an unbecoming inference 6 Sydney Smith were frequently at Blackheath, could be drawn. I am sure, however, your Ma. 6 and dined there oftener than other persons.” jesty will feel for the humiliated and degraded He then proceedsma“ I never knew Sir Sydney situation, to which this report bas reduced your “ Smith stay later than the ladies : I cannot ex- Daughter-in-law, the Princess of Wales; when “actly say at what time he went; but I never yon see her reduced to the necessity of either “ remember his staying alone with the Princess." risking the danger that the most unfavourable in.
As to what is contained in the written decla-terpretations should be credited; or else, of rations of Mr. and Mrs. Lampert, the old ser-stating, as I am now degraded to the neces. vants of Sir John and Lady Douglas (as from sity of statiug, that not only no adulterous, or some circumstance or other respecting, I con- criminal, but no indecent or improper intercourse ceive, either their credit or supposed import- whatever ever subsisted between Sir Sydney ance), the Commissioners have not thought pro. Smith and myself, or any thing which I shonld per to examine them upon their oaths, I do not have objected that all the would should have imagine your Majesty would expect that I should seen,
I say, degraded to the necessity of stating take any notice of them. And as to what is de- it, for your Majesty must feel that a woman's posed by my Lady Douglas, if your Majesty will character is degraded when it is put upon her to observe the gross and horrid'indecencies with make such statement, at the peril of the conwhich she ushers in, and states my confessions to trary being credited unless she decidedly conher of my asserted criminal intercourse with Sir tradicts it. Sir Sydney Smitli's absence from Sydney Smith, your Majesty, I am confident, the country prevents may calling upon him to atwill not be surprised that I do not descend to test the truth; but, I trust, when your Majesty any particular observations on her deposition.-shall find, as you will find, that my declarations One, and one only observation will I make, to a similar effect, with respect to the other genwhich, however, could not have escaped your tlemen referred to in this Report, is confirmed, Majesty, if I had omitted it.—That your Ma- by their denial, that your Majesty will think jesty will have an excellent portraiture of the that in a case, where nothing but my own word true female delicacy and purity of my Lady can be adduced, my own word alone may be opDouglas's mind and character, when you will ob- posed to whatever little remains of credit or serve that she seems wholly insensible to what a weight may, after all the above observations, be sink of infamy she degrades herself by her testi- supposed yet to belong to Mr. Cole, to his infermony against me. It is not only that it appears, ences, his insinuations, or his facts. Not, infrom her statement, that she was contented to deed, that I have yet finished my observations live in familiarity and apparent friendship with on Mr. Cole's credit; but I must reserve the reme, after the confession which I made of my mainder till I consider his evidence with respect adultery (for by the indulgence and liberality, as to Mr. Lawrence ; and till I have occasion to it is called, of modern manners, the company of comment upon the testimony of Fanny Lloyd. adultresses bas ceased to reflect that discredit Then, indeed, I shall be under the necessity of upon the characters of other women wbo admit exlıibiting to your Majesty these witnesses, Fanny them to their society, which the best interests of Lloyd and Mr. Cole (both of whom are reprefemale virtue may perhaps require); but she was sented as so unbiassed and so credible) in fat, contented to live in familiarity with a woman, decisive, and irreconcilable contradiction to who, if Lady Douglas's evidence of me is true, each other. was a most low, vulgar, and profligate disgrace The next person with whom my improper into her sex. The grossness of whose ideas and timacy is insinuated, is, Mr. Lawrence, the conversation would add infamy to the lowest, painter. -The principal witness on this charge most vulgar, and most infamous prostitute. It is also Mr. Cole; Mr. R. Bidgood says nothing is not, however, upon this circumstance that I about him; Fanny Lloyd says nothiug about rest assured no reliance can be placed on Lady him; and all that Mrs, Lisle says is perfectly true, Donglas's testimony; but after what is proved, and I am neither able nor feel interested to con with regard to her evidence respecting my preg: tradict it. “ That she remembers my sitting to nancy and delivery in 1802, I am certain that any Mr. Lawrence for my picture at Blackbeath, observations upon her testimony, or her veracity and in London; that she has left me at his house must be flung away.---Your Majesty has there in town with him, but she thinks Mrs. Fitzgerald fore now before you the state of the charge against was with us; and that she thinks I sat alone me as far as it respects Sir Sidney Smijh: and with him at Blackheath.” But Mr. Cole speaks this is, as I understand the Report, one of the of Mr. Lawrence in a manner that calls for parcharges whicle, with its unfavourable interpretations, ticular observation. He says, “Mr. Lawrence, must, in the opinion of the Commissioners, be cre- the painter, used to go to Montague House dited till decidedly contradicted. As to the facts about the latter end of 1801, when be was
painting the Princess, and he has slept in the same which the witnesses cail the Blue room) he house two or three nights together. I have of does not know whether any person was with her; ten seen him alone with the Princess at eleven or but it appeared odd to him, as he had formed twelve o'clock at night. He has been there as some suspicions.". The striking and important late as one and two o'clock in the morning. observation on this passage is, that when he One night I saw him with the Princess in the Blue first talks of the door of the drawing-room room, after the ladies had retired. Some time af- being locked, so far from his mentioning any terwards, when I supposed he had gone to his room, thing of whispering being overheard, he expressI went to see that all was safe, and I found the ly says, that he did not know that any body Blue room door locked, and heard a whispering in
was with me. The passage is likewise de it; and I went away." Here, again, your Ma- serving your Majesty's most serious considerajesty observes, that Mr. Cole deals bis deadliest tiou on another ground. For it is one of those blows against any character by insinuation. And which shews that Mr. Cole, though we have four here, again, his insinuation is left unsifted and separate declarations made by bim, has certainly unexplained. I here understand him to insinuate made other statements which have not been that, though he supposed Mr. Lawrence to have transmitted to your Majesty ; for it evidently regone to his room, he was still where he had said fers to something which he had said before of he last left him; and that the locked door .pre- having found the drawing-room door locked, and vented him from seeing me and Mr. Lawrence no trace of such a statement is discoverable in alone together, whose whispering, however, he the previous examination of Mr. Cole, as I have notwithstanding overheard.-Before, Sire, I come received it, and I have no doubt that, in obedito my own explanation of the fact of Mr. Law- ence to your Majesty's commands, I have, at rence's sleeping at Montague House, I must again length, been furnished with the whole. I don't refer to Mr. Cole's original declarations. I must know, indeed, that it should be matter of comagain examine Mr. Cole against Mr. Cole: which plaint from me, that your Majesty has not been I cannot help lamenting it does not seem to have furnished with all the statements of Mr. Cole, occurred to others to have done ; as I am per-| because, from the sample I see of them, I cansuaded, if it had, his prevarications and his not suppose that any of them could have furnishfalsehood could never have escaped them. They ed any thing, favourable to me, except, indeed, would then have been able to have traced, as that they might have furnished me with fresh, your Majesty will now do, through my observa. means of contradicting him by himself.-- -But, tions, by what degrees he hardened himself up to your Majesty will see that there have been other the infamy (for I can use no other expression) of statements not conimunicated; a circumstance stating this fact, by which he means to insinuate of which both your Majesty and I have reason to that be heard me and Mr. Lawrence, locked up complain. But it may be out of its place further in this Blue room, whispering together, and to notice that fact at present. alone. I am sorry to be obliged to drag your To return, therefore, to Mr. Cole :--In his Majesty through so long a detail ; but I am con- third declaration, dated the 30th of January, fident your Majesty's goodness, and love of jus- there is not a word about Mr. Lawrence. In tice, will excuse it, as it is essential to the vindi. his fourth and last, which is dated on the 23d of cation of my character, as well as to the illustra- February, he says, “ the person who was alone tion of Mr. Cole's Mr. Cole's examination, with the lady at late hours of the night (twelve as contained in his first written declaration of and one o'clock), and whom he left sitting up the 11th of January, has nothing of this. I mean “ after he went to bed, was Mr. Laurence, not to say that it has nothing concerning Mr. “ wbich happened two different nights." Here Lawrence, for it has much, which is calculated is likewise another trace of a former statement to occasion unfavourable interpretations, and which is not given; for no such person is nien- given with a view to that object. But that cir- tioned before in any that I have been furnished cumstance, as I submit to your Majesty, in- with.- -Your Majesty then here observes, that, creases the weight of my observation. Had after having given evidence in two of his declarathere been nothing in his first declaration about tions, respecting Mr. Lawrence by name, in Mr. Lawrence at all, it might have been ima- which he mentions nothing of locked doors, and gined that, perhaps, Mr. Lawrence escaped his after having, in another declaration, given an acrecollection altogether; or, that his declaration count of a locked door, but expressly stated, had been solely directed to other persons; but, that he knew not whether any one was with me as it does contain observations respecting Mr. within it, and said nothing about whispering beLawrence, but nothing of a locked door or the ing overheard, but, impliedly, at least, negatived whispering within it;-how he happened at that it. In the deposition before the Commissioners, time not to recollect, or, if he recollected, not he puts all these things together, and has the larto mention, so very striking and remarkable a dihood to add to them that remarkable circumcircumstance is not, I should imagine, very sa- stance which could not have escaped liis recoltisfactorily to be explained. His statenent in lection at the first, if it had been true," of his that first declaration stands thus:-" In 1801, having, on the same night in which he found “ Lawrence, the painter, was at Montague" me and Mr. Lawrence alone, after the ladies “ House, for four or five days at a time, paintings were gone to bed, come again to the room “ the Princess's picture. That he was frequently when he thought Mr. Lawreuce must have “ alone late in the night with the Princess, and beeu retired, and found the door locked, and “ much suspicion was entertained of him.” Mr. “ heard the whispering ;" and then again le Cole's next declaration, at least, the next which gives another instance of his honesty, and upon appears among the written declarations, was the same principle on which he took no notice of taken on the 14th of January; it does not men- the man in the great coat, he finds the door tion Mr, Lawrence's name, but it has this pas- locked, hears the whispering, and then he silently sage-“When Mr. Cole found the drawing-room, and contentedly retires.- And this witness, which led to the staircase to the Princess's apart- who thus not only varies in his testimony, but ments, locked (which your Majesty knows is the contradicts himself in such inportant particulars, is one of those who cannot be suspected of un. I had been left alone with Mr. Lawrence at his favourable bias, and wliose veracity is not to be own house; to which she answers, that she, inquestioned, and whose evidence must be credited deed, had left me there, but that she thinks she till decidedly contradicted.--These observa- left Mrs. Fitzgerald with me.If an inference tions might probably be deemed sufficient, upon of an unfavourable nature could have been drawn Mr. Cole's depositiou, as far as it respects Mr. from my having been left there alone-was it, Lawrence; but I cannot be satisfied without ex- Sire, taking all that care which might be wished, plaining to your Majesty all the truth, and the to guard against such an inference on the part of particulars, respecting Mr. Lawrence, which I the Commissioners, when they omitted to send recollect. What I recollect then is as follows. for Mrs. Fitzgerald to ascertain what Mrs. Lisle He began a large picture of me, and of my gh may have left in doubt. The Commissioners, I ter, towards the latter end of the year 1800, or give them the fullest credit, were satisfied that the beginning of 1801. Miss Garth and Miss Mrs. Lisle thought correctly upon this fact, and Hayman were in the house with me at the time. that Mrs. Fitzgerald, if she had been sent for
The picture was painted at Montagne House. again, would so have proved it, and, therefore, Mr. Lawrence mentioned to Miss Hayman bis that it would have been troubling her to no pur. wish to be permitted to remain some tew nights pose, but this it is, of which I conceive myself in the house, that, by rising early he might begin to have most reason to complain; that the exapainting on the picture before Princess Charlotte minations in several instances have not been fol(whose residence being at that time at Shooter's lowed up so as to remove unfavourable impresHill, was enabled to come early), or myself, sions.--I cannot but feel satisfied that the came to sit. It was a similar request to that Commissioners would have been glad to have which had been made by Sir William Beechy, been warranted in negativing all criminality, when he painted my picture. And I was sen- aud all suspicion on his part of the charge, as sible of no impropriety wlien I granted the re- completely and honourably as they have done on quest to either of them. Mr. Lawrence occu- the principal charges of pregnancy and delivery. pied the same room which liad been occupied by They traced that part of the charge with ability, Sir William Beechy; it was at the other end of sagacity, diligence, and perseverance; and the the house from my apartment.
result was complete satisfaction of my innocence ; At that time Mr. Lawrence did not dine with complete detection of the falsehood of my acme; his dinner was served in his own room. After cusers. Encouraged by their success in that dinner he came down to the room where I and part of their inquiry, I lament that they did not, my Ladies generally sat in an evening, sometimes (as they thought proper to enter into the other there was music, in which he joined, and some part of it at all), with similar industry, pursue it. times he read poetry. Parts of Shakespeare's If they had, I am confident tbey would have plays I particularly remember, from his reading pursued it with the same success; but though them very well; and sometimes he played chess they had convicted Sir Jolin and Lady Douglas with me. It frequently way have happened that of falsehood, they seem to have thigught it imposit was one or two o'clock before I dismissed Mrrsible to suspect of the same falsehood any other of Lawrence and my Ladies. They, together with the witnesses, though produced by Sir John and Mr. Lawrence, went out of the same door, up Lady Douglas. The most obvious means, therethe same stair-case, and at the same time. Ac-fore, of trying their credit, by comparing their cording to my own recollection, I should have evidence with what they had said before, seems said, that in vo one instance they had left Mr. to me to have been omitted. Many facts are Lawrence behind them alone with me. But I left upon surmise only and insinuation; obvious suppose it did happen once for a short time, means of getting further information, on doubtful since Mr. Lawrence so recollects it, as your Mac and suspicious circumstances, are not resorted jesty will perceive from his deposition, which I to; and, as if the important matter of the inquiry annex. He staid in my house two or three nights (on which a satisfactory conclusion had been , together; but how many nights in the whole, T formed) was all that required any very attentive do not recollect. The picture left my honse by or accurate consideration; the remainder of it April, 1801, and Mr. Lawrence never slept in my was pursued in a manner which, as it seems to house afterwards. That picture now belongs to me, can only be accounted for by the pressure of Lady Townsend. He has since completed an- what may bave been deemed more important du. other picture of me; and about a year and a half ties and of tbis I should have made but little ago he began another, which remains at present complaint, if this inquiry, where it is imperfect, untinished. I believe it is near a twelvemouth had not been followed by a Report, which the since I last sat to him.--Mr. Lawrence lives most accurate only could have justified, and upon a footing of the greatest intimacy with the which such an accurate inquiry, I am confident, neighbouring families of Mr. Lock and Mr. An- never could have produced. If any credit was gerstein; and I have asked him sometimes to given to Mr. Cole's story of the locked door, and dine with me to meet them, While I was sitting the whispering, and to Mr. Lawrence having to him at my own house, I have no doubt I must been left with me so frequently of a night when often have sat to him alone; as the necessity for my Ladies had left us, why were not all my La. the precaution of having an attendant as a wit- dies examined? why were not all my servants exness to protect my honour fronı suspicion, cer- amined as to their knowledge of that fact? And tainly never occurred to me. And upon the same if they had been so examined, and had contra. principle, I do not doubt that I may have some- dicted the fact so sworn to by Mr. Cole, as they times contioned in conversation with lim atter must have done, had they been examined to it, he had finished painting. But when sitting in that alone would have been sufficient to have re his own house, I have always been attended with moved his name from the list of unsuspected and one of my ladies. And, indeed, nothing in the uoquestionable witnesses, and relieved me from examiuations state the contrary. One part of much of the suspicion which his evidence, till it Mrs. Lisle's examination seems as if she had a was examined, was calculated to have raised in questiou put to her, upon the supposition thrat 1 your Majesty's miud. And to close this stalo.
ment and these observations, and in addition to room alone. He was a person with whom the them, I most solemnly assert to your Majesty, Princess appeared to have greater pleasure in that Mr. Lawrence, neither at bis own house, talking than with lier Ladies. Her Royal Highnor at mine, nor any where else, ever was for ness behaved to him only as any woman would one moment, by night or by day, in the same who likes flirting. She (Mrs. Lisle) would not room with me when the door of it was locked; have thought any married womun would have behaved that he never was in my company of an evening properly, who behuved as Her Royal Highness did alone, except the momentary conversation which to Captain Manby. She can't say whether the Mr. Lawrence speaks to may be thought an ex- Princess was attached to Captain Manby,, only that ception; and that nothing ever passed between it was a flirting conduct. She never saw any gallin' and ine which all the world might not have lantries, as kissing her hand, or the like.” -I witnessed. And, Sire, I have subjoined a depo- have cautiously stated the whole of Mrs. Lisle's sition to the same effect from Mr. Lawrence. evideuce upon this part of the case; and I ain
-To satisfy myself, therefore, and your Ma- sure your Majesty, in reading it, will not fail to jesty, I have shewn, I trust, by unanswerable ob- keep the facts which Mrs. Lisle speaks to sepaservations and arguments, that there is no colour rate from the opinion or judgment which she for crediting Mr. Cole, or, consequently, any part forms upon them. I mean not to speak disreof this charge, which rests solely on his evidence. spectfully or slightingly of Mrs. Lisle's opinion, But to satisfy the requisition of the Commission- or express myself as in any degree indifferent to ers, I have brought my pride to submit (though it. But whatever there was which she observed not withont great pain, I can assure your Ma. in my conduct that did not become a married jesty) to add the only contradictions which I con
woman, that “
was only like a woman who liked ceive can be given, those of Mr. Lawrence and Birting," and “ ONLY a flirting conduct," I am myself. The next person with whom these ex-convinced your Majesty must be satisfied that it aminations charge my improper familiarity, and must have been tar distant from affording any with regard to which the Report represents the evidence of crime, of vice, or of indecency, as it evidence as particularly strong, is Captain Manby passed openly in the company of my Ladies, of With respect to him, Mr. Colo's examination is whom Mrs. Lisle herselt was one. --The facts silent. But the evidence on which the Commis- she states are, that Captain Manby came very sioners rely on this part of the case is Mr. Bid- frequently to my house; that he dined there good's, Miss Fanny Lloyd's, and Mrs. Lisle's. It three or four times a week in the later end of respects my conduct at three different places; at the year 1802; that he sat next to me at dinner; Montague House, Southend, and at Ramsgate; and that my conversation after dinner, in the I shall preserve the facts and my observations evening, used to be with Captain Manbý, sepamore distinct, if I consider the evidence, as ap- rate from my Ladies. These are the facts: and plicable to these three places, separately and in is it up then that my character, I will pot say, its order; and I prefer this mode of treating it, is to be taken away, but is to be affected?as it will enable me to consider the evidence of Captain Manby had, in the autumn of the same Mrs. Lisle in the first place, and consequently year, been introduced to me by Lady Townshend, put it out of the reach of the harsher observas when I was upon a visit to her at Rainham. Í tions which I may be under the necessity of think he came there only the day betore I left it. making upon the testimony of the other two. He was a naval officer, as I understood, and as I For though Mrs. Lisle, indeed, speaks to having still believe, of great werit. What little expense, scen Captain Marby at East Cliff in August, in the way of charity, I am able to afford, I am 1803, to the best of her remeinbrance it was best pleased to dedicate to the education of the only once. She speaks to his mecting her at children of poor, but honest persons; and I niost Deal in tlie same seasou ; that he landed there generally bring them np to the service of the with some boys whom I took on charity, and navy. I had at that time two boys at school, who were under his care; yet she speaks of uo-whom I thought of an age fit to be put to sea. Í thing there that can require a single observation desired Lady Townshend to prevail upon Captain froni me. The material parts of her evidence Manby to take them. He consented to it, and respect her seeing him at Blackheath the Christ- of course I was obliged to him.--About this mas before she bad seen him at East Cliff. She time, or shortly afterwards, he was appointed to says, it was the Christinas after Mr. Austin's the Africaine, a ship which was fitting up at child came, consequently the Christmas 1802-3. Deptford. To be near bis ship, as I understood He used to come to dine there, she says-he al- and believe, he took lodgings at Blackheath; ways went away in her
presence, and she had no and as to the mere fact of his being so frequently reason to think he staid after the Ladies retired. at my house-his intimacy and friendship wit He lodged on the heath at that time; his ship Lord and Lady Townshend, which of itself was was fitting up at Deptford; he came to dinner assurance to me of his respectability and characthree or four times a week, or more. She sup- ter~my pleasure in shewing my respect to them, poses he might be alone with the Princess, but by notice and attention to a friend of theirs-his that she was in the habit of seeing Gentlemen uudertaking the care of my charity boys and and tradesmen without her being present. She his accidental residence at Blackheath, will
, I (Mrs. Lisle) has seen him at luncheon and dinner should trust, not unreasonably account for it.' i both. The boys (two boys) came with him two have a similar account likewise to give of paying or three times, but not to dinner. Captain for the linen furniture, with which his cabin was Manby always sat next the Princess at dinner. furnished. Wishing to make him some return for
The constant company were Mrs. and Miss Fitz- his trouble with the boys, I desired that I might gerald and herself all retired with the Princess, choose the pattern of his furniture. I not only and sat in the same room. Captain Manby gene chose it, but had it sent to him, and paid the rally retired about eleven, and sat with us all hill; finding, however, that it did not come to till then. Captain Manby and the Princess used, more than about twenty pounds, I thought it a when we were together, to be speaking together shabby present, and therefore added some trilling separately, conversing separately, but not in a present of plate, So I have frequently done, and I hope, without offence, may be permitted | they are not both examined to these circumto do again, to any Captain on whom I impose stances? But Miss Fitzgerald is not examined such trouble. Sir Samuel Hood has now two of at all; and Mrs. Fitzgerald, though examined, my charity boys with him; and I have presented and examined too with respect to Captain Manhim with a silver epergne. I should be ashained by, does not appear to have had a single question to notice such things, but your Majesty perceives put to her with respect to any thing which passed that they are made the subject of inquiry from concerning bim at Montague House. May I not Mrs. Fitzgerald and Mr. Stikeman, and I was de- therefore complain that the examination, leaving sirous that they should not appear to be particu- the generality of Mrs. Lisle's expression unexlar in the case of Captain Manby.
plained by herself; and the scenes to which it But to return to Mrs. Lisle's examination relates unexamined into, by calling the other Mrs. Lisle says, that Captain Manby, when he persons who were present, is leaving it precisely dined with me, sat next to me at dinner. Be- in that state, which is better calculated to raise fore any inference is drawn from that fact, I am a suspicion, than to ascertain the truth? But sure your Majesty will observe that, in the next I am persuaded that the unfavourable impression line of Mrs. Lisle's examination, she says, “ that which is most likely to be made by Mrs. Lisle's the constant company was Mrs. and Miss Fitz- examination, is not by her evidence to the facts, gerald, and herself, Mrs. Lisle.” The only gen. but by her opinion upon them.
“ I appeared," tleman, the only person of the whole party who she says, “ to like the conversation of Captain was not of my own family, was Captain Manby; Manby better than that of my ladies. I beand his sitting next to me, under such circum-haved to him only as a woman who likes flirting; stances, I should apprehend could not possibly my conduct was nubecoming a married woman; afford any inference of any kind. In the even- she cannot say whether I was attached to Caping we were never alone. The whole company tain Manby or not; it was only a flirting consat together; nay, even as to his being with me duct.”-Now, Sire, I must here again most alone of a morning, Mrs. Lisle seems to know seriously complain that the Commissioners should nothing of the fact, but from a conjecture found have called for, or received, and much more, ed upon her knowledge of my known usual habit, reported, in this manner, the opinion and judga with respect to seeing gentlemen who might ment of Mrs. Lisle upon my conduct. Your call upon me. And the very foundation' of lier Majesty's Warrant purports to authorize them to conjecture demonstrates that this circumstance collect the evidence, and not the opinion of can be no evidence of any thing particular with others; and to report it, with their own judg. regard to Captain Manby.---As to my convers- ment surely, and not Mrs. Lisle's. Mrs. Lisle's ing with Captain Manby separately, I do not judgment was formed upon those facts which nnderstand Mrs. Lisle as meaning to speak to she stated to the Commissioners, or upon other the state of the conversation uninterruptedly, facts. If upon those she stated, the Commisdoring the whole of any of the several evenings sioners, and your Majesty, are as well able to wheo Captain Manby was with me; if I did so form the judgment upon them as she was. If understand her, I should certainly most confi- upon other facts, the Commissioners should have dently assert, that she was not correct. That heard what those other facts were, and upon in the coarse of the evening, as the ladies were them have formed and reported their judgment. working, reading, or otherwise amusing them- -I am aware, indeed, that if I were to argue selves, the conversation was sometimes more that the facts which Mrs. Lisle states, afford the and sometimes less general; and that they some explanation of what she means by " only flirting times took more, sometimes less part in it; conduct,” and by “behaviour unbecoming a that frequently it was between Captain Manby married woman," namely, that it consisted in and myself alone; and that, when we were all having the same gentleman to dine with me together, we two might frequently be the only three or four times a week ;-letting him sit persons not otherwise engaged, and therefore be next me al dinner, when there were no other justly said to be speaking together separately. strangers in company ;-conversing with him se
Besides, Captain Manby has been round the parately, and appearing to prefer lis conversaworld with Captain Vancouvre. I have looked tion to that of the ladies,-it would be observed over prints in books of voyages with him; he has probably, that this was not all; that there was explained them to me; the ladies may or may always a certain indescribable something in not have been looking over them at the same manner, which gave the character to conduct, time; they may have been engaged with their and must have entered mainly into such a judg own amusemenis. Here again, we may be said ment' as Mrs. Lisle has here pronounced. -T to have been conversing separately, and conse- a certain extent I should be obliged to agree to quently that Mrs. Lisle, in this sense, is perfect this ; but if I am to have any prejudice from ly justified in saying that " I used to converse this observatiou; if it is to give a weight and separately with Captain Manby," I have not the authority to Mrs. Lisle's judgment, let me have least difficulty in admitting. But jave I not the advantage of it also. If it justifies the conagain reason to complain that this expression of clusion that Mrs. Lisle's censure upon my conMrs. Lisle's was not more sifted, but left in a duct is right, it requires also that equal credit manner calculated to raise an impression that should be given to the qualification, the limit, this separate conversation was studiously sought and the restriction which she herself puts upon for, was constant, uniform, and uninterrupted, that censure.- -Mrs. Lisle, seeing all the facts though it by no means asserts any such thing? which she relates, and observing much of manBut whether I used always so to converse with ner, which perlaps she could not describe, lihim; or generally, or only sometimes, or for wliat mits the expression“ flirting conduct" by calling proportion of the evening I used to be so en it “only flirting," and says (upon having the gaged, is left upasked and unexplained. Have question asked to her, no doubt, whether from I not likewise just reason to complain, that the whole she could collect that I was attached though Mrs. Lisle states, that Mrs. Fitzgerald to Captain Manby) says " she could not say and Miss Fitzgerald were always of the party, whether I was attached to him, my conduct was